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citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by john_drummer » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:41 pm

does anyone have any recipes using these three as a combination? American Pale or Amber style would be nice

I already have one "go to" golden ale recipe using Citra & Cascade, and another (American Pale Ale) using Centennial/Chinook/Amarillo/Cascade, but I don't think I've seen one using Amarillo, Citra & Cascade. Do they work well as a threesome, or would I be better doing an Amarillo single hop and one of my go-to recipes?

Doing a demonstration BIAB at my LHBS in a couple of weeks so it would be nice to have an interesting recipe

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by killer » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:35 pm

It's definitely on my to do list - has been for a while. I bought some Citra especially for a Cascade/Amarillo/ Citra brew - I might even throw in some Nelson Sauvin.
My only slight worry would be that I find Cascade can be a little harsh as a sole bittering hop so would be inclined to split all three equally over bittering/ flavour/ aroma and dry hops.

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by bob3000 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:48 pm

here's one:

Take as much of those 3 hops as you can afford and chuck them in a pale ale leaving plenty to dry hop. How could it go wrong? :D

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by seymour » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:12 pm

First of all, I consider this sort of "uncharted territory" ripe for experimentation, and you should be just the guy to do it...

But to answer your precise question: no, I've never seen a recipe calling for Citra and Cascade and Amarillo together. We know Citra and Cascade meld well. We know Cascade and Amarillo meld well. But I predict Citra (lemony and tropical fruity) and Amarillo (bitter orange, cinnamon, herbal, dark and mysterious) might be sorta incompatible. Maybe not, though, I've never tried it nor read about it.

However, If you're interested in DELICIOUS beers containing Citra, I have some info about:
Adnams Ghost Ship
Adnams Ginger Beer
Adnams Mild
Badger/Hall & Woodhous Golden Glory (Golden Ale)
Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye
St. Austell Brewery Bad Habit (Belgian Tripel based on Westmalle)
Tallgrass Halcyon Unfiltered Wheat
Three Floyds Zombie Dust

Just let me know if you want more...

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Post by john_drummer » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:20 pm

But I predict Citra (lemony and tropical fruity) and Amarillo (bitter orange, cinnamon, herbal, dark and mysterious) might be sorta incompatible
that's what I was afraid of...

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Post by seymour » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:38 pm

bob3000 wrote:...Take as much of those 3 hops as you can afford and chuck them in a pale ale leaving plenty to dry hop. How could it go wrong? :D
I love your adventurous spirit, and I too hope he gives it a try for all our benefits, but there are definitely some unpleasant combos...
john_drummer wrote:
But I predict Citra (lemony and tropical fruity) and Amarillo (bitter orange, cinnamon, herbal, dark and mysterious) might be sorta incompatible
that's what I was afraid of...
Yeah, but like I said, there's one way to know for sure!

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Post by Matt12398 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:42 pm

seymour wrote: St. Austell Brewery Bad Habit (Belgian Tripel based on Westmalle)
Seymour, do you get St. Austell over there or have you researched? It's my local brewery and I spend a lot of time there if I can help it. They have an annual beer festival with about 150 beers. They did a few Belgian ales for their last festival but I didn't get chance to try this one although tried a couple others. When you eventually get over here time it coincide with this at the end of November. Worth a visit.

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Post by jonnyt » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:59 pm

You missed the best of all, Oakham Ales Citra ;)

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Post by jaroporter » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:03 pm

But I predict Citra (lemony and tropical fruity) and Amarillo (bitter orange, cinnamon, herbal, dark and mysterious) might be sorta incompatible
but seymour..
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55416

:=P

been following that one closely as the grainbill is amazingly close to one of my beers but i'm still messing around with similar hop combinations. the amarillo and citra together seem to have worked pretty well together here so maybe i try something along those lines too..
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Post by seymour » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:46 pm

Matt12398 wrote:Seymour, do you get St. Austell over there or have you researched? It's my local brewery and I spend a lot of time there if I can help it. They have an annual beer festival with about 150 beers. They did a few Belgian ales for their last festival but I didn't get chance to try this one although tried a couple others. When you eventually get over here time it coincide with this at the end of November. Worth a visit.
Sadly, I have not actually tasted them, it's based on research only. Hopefully someday I can meet-up with you at their festival, that would be awesome.
jonnyt wrote:You missed the best of all, Oakham Ales Citra ;)
That's another one I can't get, but it does sound delicious.
jaroporter wrote:
But I predict Citra (lemony and tropical fruity) and Amarillo (bitter orange, cinnamon, herbal, dark and mysterious) might be sorta incompatible
but seymour..
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55416

:=P

been following that one closely as the grainbill is amazingly close to one of my beers but i'm still messing around with similar hop combinations. the amarillo and citra together seem to have worked pretty well together here so maybe i try something along those lines too..
OH YEAH, GOOD CATCH! I totally forgot about that adaptation. My original Seymour Bready Red recipe doesn't call for Amarillo and Citra, but Barneey adapted it that way and described it as "a cracking brew" and "tastes bloody fantastic." So, there you go, john_drummer, it sounds like they're compatible after all! Crowd-sourced homebrew data saves the day again!

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by barry44 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:12 pm

I have just bottled an extract brew using the three of these hops with Magnum as a bittering workhorse

It was to 46 IBU with 5, 10, & 15 of each hop at 15, 10, & 5 minutes respectively with 20 of each for a half hour 80 degree steep finished with 20 of each dry hopped for five days.

I bottled it on Sunday and it smelled tremendous.

Really looking forward to getting in about it!

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Post by dreadskin69 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:39 pm

ive just tried my gold no.2 with simco to bitter, citra, amarillo and galaxy for late additions.
out.of.this.world!
peachy, lemony, orangy, mangoy.
[censored]!

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by john_drummer » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:13 pm

sounds like it could be a goer after all :-)

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Re: citra/cascade/amarillo recipes?

Post by InsideEdge » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:07 am

Loads of those hops, pale malt, job done!

Seriously, you can't go wrong if you like hop bombs with those hops.

More the merrier.

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