Recently enjoyed a lovely pint of Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack in my local and was wondering if anyone would have at a guess as to the recipe? I haven't got a mash tun together yet so would be looking for an extract version.
One thing that did stand out was a slight grassy overtone, which I found refreshingly familiar from some of the beers found down south (I'm a southerner in Scotland) that you just don't get up here. I'm sure the grassiness would be from a bit of dry hopping, but was wondering which hops would be best for that. Could imagine it'd be easy to overdo it and end up with a glass of lawn cuttings!
On the neame website they have the following hints to offer.....
A 3.5% abv cask beer with a crisp, refreshing flavour, Canterbury Jack is hand-crafted by Shepherd Neame's team of award-winning brewers, using the highest quality ingredients.
Canterbury Jack is brewed with pale and crystal malts and gently hopped with Cascade and East Kent Goldings, grown within a few miles of the brewery. The water used is taken from an artesian well in the chalk beneath the Shepherd Neame brewery in Faversham, Kent.
This pale chestnut beer tantalises the nostrils with the aroma of grapefruit before full-bodied, malty, citrus notes delight the palate, leading to a crisp, refreshing, gentle bitter finish.
Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
FV: -
Conditioning: AG34 Randy's Three Nipple Tripel 9.2%, AG39 APA for a mate's wedding
On bottle: AG32 Homegrown Northdown ESB, AG33 Homegrown Cascade Best
On tap: -
Garden: 2x cascade, 2x Farnham whitebine (mathon), 2x northdown, 1x first gold
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Re: Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
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This'll get you close: pale and crystal malts, East Kent Goldings and Cascade hops, 4% ABV, pale chestnut colour, etc.
6 US gallons = 5 Imperial Gallons = 22.7 Litres
GRAINBILL:
90% = 7.65 lb = 3.47 kg, Maris Otter or other English Pale Ale Malt
10% = .85 lb = 386 g, Crystal Malt
MASH at 151°F/66°C for 90 minutes
BOIL 60-90 minutes, add a pinch of gypsum to make the hops pop, drop Irish Moss at 15 min remaining.
HOPS:
.88oz = 25 g, East Kent Goldings, 60 minutes
.88oz = 25 g, Cascade, 15 minutes
.88oz = 25 g, Cascade, at flame-out, steep until cooled
YEAST:
Nottingham, ferment at the warm end of the ideal range. Shepherd Neame's primary yeast is supposedly available in Spitfire and 1698 bottles, in case you're a purist. I've heard BrewLabs sells an "anonymized" version, too.
STATS (assuming 75% mash efficiency and 77% yeast attenuation):
OG: 1041
ABV: 4%
IBU: 25
COLOUR: 9°SRM/18°EBC
This'll get you close: pale and crystal malts, East Kent Goldings and Cascade hops, 4% ABV, pale chestnut colour, etc.
6 US gallons = 5 Imperial Gallons = 22.7 Litres
GRAINBILL:
90% = 7.65 lb = 3.47 kg, Maris Otter or other English Pale Ale Malt
10% = .85 lb = 386 g, Crystal Malt
MASH at 151°F/66°C for 90 minutes
BOIL 60-90 minutes, add a pinch of gypsum to make the hops pop, drop Irish Moss at 15 min remaining.
HOPS:
.88oz = 25 g, East Kent Goldings, 60 minutes
.88oz = 25 g, Cascade, 15 minutes
.88oz = 25 g, Cascade, at flame-out, steep until cooled
YEAST:
Nottingham, ferment at the warm end of the ideal range. Shepherd Neame's primary yeast is supposedly available in Spitfire and 1698 bottles, in case you're a purist. I've heard BrewLabs sells an "anonymized" version, too.
STATS (assuming 75% mash efficiency and 77% yeast attenuation):
OG: 1041
ABV: 4%
IBU: 25
COLOUR: 9°SRM/18°EBC
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Re: Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
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I'd go with Crystal 60, and maybe slightly less than 10% personally but that looks pretty spot on.
I really like this beer. Yeast is a really important factor in SN's beer, as suggested you could culture up some from 1698 bottles if you can get it, or try brewlab. I asked for the yeast once before and they said they didn't have it, but I asked recently for something similar and i'm just awaiting delivery...
Best of luck with it mate!
I'd go with Crystal 60, and maybe slightly less than 10% personally but that looks pretty spot on.
I really like this beer. Yeast is a really important factor in SN's beer, as suggested you could culture up some from 1698 bottles if you can get it, or try brewlab. I asked for the yeast once before and they said they didn't have it, but I asked recently for something similar and i'm just awaiting delivery...
Best of luck with it mate!
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Fermenting -
Conditioning - Meads - Raspberry Melomel yeast test, Vanilla Cinnamon Metheglyn, Orange Melomel.
Drinking - Youngs AAA Kit; Leatherwood Traditional Mead, Cyser, Ginger Metheglyn.
Planning - Some kits until I can get back to AG, then a hoppy porter, Jim's ESB, some American Red.
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Re: Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
East Kent Goldings (or Bobek) and Cascade are a superb combo. One of my favourites!
Re: Shepherd Neame Canterbury Jack
Awesome cheers chaps, will certainly have a bash at this. Got all those hops growing in the garden this year so this could be a gooden
FV: -
Conditioning: AG34 Randy's Three Nipple Tripel 9.2%, AG39 APA for a mate's wedding
On bottle: AG32 Homegrown Northdown ESB, AG33 Homegrown Cascade Best
On tap: -
Garden: 2x cascade, 2x Farnham whitebine (mathon), 2x northdown, 1x first gold