Vienna Style Lager

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Re: Odp: Vienna Style Lager

Post by zgoda » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:59 pm

Czech polotmave is Vienna style lager. Lagering schedule is exactly the same as for other lagers.

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AdyG » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:01 pm

AnthonyD wrote:Ady,

This recipe will be my first lager too. I've read a few articles on BYO recently and this particulary one extensivelyhttp://byo.com/component/k2/item/1564-v ... r-in-exile

This particular quote gives me hope it can be done quite quickly esp if protofloced too..
Vienna lagers don’t need to be lagered (cold conditioned) for a long time. Less than a month is common for commercial Mexican Vienna lagers. Bigger lagers such as Octoberfests and bocks may benefit from up to 3 months of lagering, but a Vienna lager will likely be ready in about 2 months, if not sooner. If you fine the beer with Polyclar AT in secondary, just before racking it to your serving keg (or bottling bucket), you may shave a week or so off this time.
Cheers that sounds even more appealing now! I also tried a Brooklyn Lager last night which is a darker hoppy Vienna style and want to have a go at brewing it even more.

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by Manx Guy » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:36 am

Hi!

Brooklyn lager is a nice beer, but it is at the more hop forward end of the Vienna style and is really only Golden rather than amber...
So if you wanted to replicate that add a lot of hops in the last 5- 10 mins to get the same IBU of 28 or so. Also do not use any Cara or patent malt and you should get a beer around 16-18 EBC

It is available in one local bar I go to to watch the Rugby, its one of the better beers they have (other wise its Bud, Corona etc.)

Hope that helps

Guy

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AnthonyD » Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:25 pm

Brewed this today. A nice relaxing brewday, everything went to plan, with the exception that I hit 1.060 SG rather than the 1.054 I had predicted via Beer Smith. I'm hoping my 3L starter will dilute it slightly, and leave me with 20L of nice ale!

Tried using a protofloc and yeast nutrient for the first time. The wort was really nice and clear and dark amber. I'll let you know how this one progresses!

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AdyG » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:14 pm

Manx Guy wrote:Hi!

Brooklyn lager is a nice beer, but it is at the more hop forward end of the Vienna style and is really only Golden rather than amber...
So if you wanted to replicate that add a lot of hops in the last 5- 10 mins to get the same IBU of 28 or so. Also do not use any Cara or patent malt and you should get a beer around 16-18 EBC

It is available in one local bar I go to to watch the Rugby, its one of the better beers they have (other wise its Bud, Corona etc.)

Hope that helps

Guy
Cheers, will do!

It's currently on my very long 'to brew in 2014' list.

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AdyG » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:15 pm

AnthonyD wrote:Brewed this today. A nice relaxing brewday, everything went to plan, with the exception that I hit 1.060 SG rather than the 1.054 I had predicted via Beer Smith. I'm hoping my 3L starter will dilute it slightly, and leave me with 20L of nice ale!

Tried using a protofloc and yeast nutrient for the first time. The wort was really nice and clear and dark amber. I'll let you know how this one progresses!
Look forward to hearing how it tastes!

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AnthonyD » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:09 pm

I'll be bottling this on the weekend AdyG. Will let you know the first impressions.

I'm going to use some gelatine to clear it slightly, but it's already looking like my clearest beer yet in the FV. Maybe down to the protofloc, first time using that!

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AdyG » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:59 pm

AnthonyD wrote:I'll be bottling this on the weekend AdyG. Will let you know the first impressions.

I'm going to use some gelatine to clear it slightly, but it's already looking like my clearest beer yet in the FV. Maybe down to the protofloc, first time using that!
Can you keep the primed bottles at room temp for a week or so, then move to a colder garage or shed for a couple of weeks? That normally clears well for me. I've not had finings to bottles, only ever use Irish moss in the boil.

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AnthonyD » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:55 am

Bottled this the other night, without the gelatine. It came out a lovely dark golden syrup colour and an early taste of the hydrometer sample was smooooth!

It looks promising. 1 week at room temp to carb up and then 2 in the cold, should sort it. It was really really clear. Finished at 1.010 which I reckon is about 5.8%! A bit stronger than i would have liked.

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AdyG » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:14 pm

AnthonyD wrote:Bottled this the other night, without the gelatine. It came out a lovely dark golden syrup colour and an early taste of the hydrometer sample was smooooth!

It looks promising. 1 week at room temp to carb up and then 2 in the cold, should sort it. It was really really clear. Finished at 1.010 which I reckon is about 5.8%! A bit stronger than i would have liked.
That does sound really tasty! It will be nice by Christmas... and it's ok to have stronger drink then so the 5.8% will be great!

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Re: Vienna Style Lager

Post by AnthonyD » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:38 am

Well this one turned out great even without lagering... (They are currently outside however to get a good week in the cold before Xmas)

The colour is spot on with Thornbridge's Kill Your Darlings - the only Vienna Lager I've tasted recently. The carbination is heaps better than the Thornbridge one too with a nice tasty head that lasts all the way towards the bottom of the glass.

The taste is quite heavy on the vanilla note. A bit like a darker, but more flavourful Staropramen, it's lovely and dry too. This recipe is a keeper!

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