whitstable bay. shepard and neame suggestions

[Deebee]

Hi Gents.
A friend of mine has started brewing with me.
We made an old speckled hen for his first brew and he loved it. So he has no asked if we can do something along the lines of Whitstable bay.

Earlier correspondance with the brewery has told me that it is likely 93-95%pale ,and the rest light crystal.
Hops wise i suggest target, first gold with a late hop of goldings plus some dryhoping og goldings or first gold.
They say itnis quite citurs so i think the first gold is what i need most.
But i have no idea of ibu or og.
Any tweeks on my thoughts above would be great. Seymour??

[seymour]

I don't know for sure, but you're probably close.

OG 1045, ABV 4.5%, IBU ≈33

Grainbill might be 95% extra ale base malt, 5% Vienna, Munich, or CaraMalt. A very light "crystal", based on the straw colour of that beer.

It sounds like you're describing the hop schedule from their Spitfire:
Target (90 min), First Gold & Goldings (at flame-out), dry hop with First Gold & Goldings.

Maybe that's how some Whitstable Bay brews are hopped too, I don't know. On Ratebeer, there are 5 different beers called Shepherd Neame Whitstable Bay. The bottled Whitstable Bay Organic Ale uses New Zealand Pacific Gem and Hallertau.

They make it as a lager (lager strain yeast of course) and an ale version, presumably using their proprietary Shepherd Neame brewery strain, a Whitbread-B equivalent originally obtained from Thwaites, also available in bottle-conditioned Spitfire and 1698. Thus S-04 would be perfect.

[Deebee]

I don't know for sure, but you're probably close.

OG 1045, ABV 4.5%, IBU ≈33

Grainbill might be 95% extra ale base malt, 5% Vienna, Munich, or CaraMalt. A very light "crystal", based on the straw colour of that beer.

It sounds like you're describing the hop schedule from their Spitfire:
Target (90 min), First Gold & Goldings (at flame-out), dry hop with First Gold & Goldings.

Maybe that's how some Whitstable Bay brews are hopped too, I don't know. On Ratebeer, there are 5 different beers called Shepherd Neame Whitstable Bay. The bottled Whitstable Bay Organic Ale uses New Zealand Pacific Gem and Hallertau.

They make it as a lager (lager strain yeast of course) and an ale version, presumably using their proprietary Shepherd Neame brewery strain, a Whitbread-B equivalent originally obtained from Thwaites, also available in bottle-conditioned Spitfire and 1698. Thus S-04 would be perfect.

Sent them a mail and asked. We wait and see.
In the mean time i am looking at roughly the grist mentioned above butnwith a little flaked wheat for lacing.
I have neither of the hops so will hop with goldings then from 10 mins out add first gold and the same as a steep.
Interested whether S&N reply. They did last time when they confirmed they do NOT use amber in any brews anymore.