Kipling taste?

[Fat boy quiff]

Hi,
I have long been a fan of Thornbridge Kipling beer and thought i would like to have a go at replicating that distinctive musky taste. This musky taste to which I refer,my son and I call "gorilla pee" flavour! Where the hell that came from I do not know because to the best of my knowledge neither my son or I have tasted gorilla pee. Never the less we both seem to know what we mean when we use gorilla pee as a descriptor. Would anyone here know from which hop or blend of hops this musky taste derives from,that I might attempt to replicate a Kipling style beer.

Thanking you in anticipation

Fat boy quiff.

[Hanglow]

It's 100% Nelson Sauvin iirc

quick google confirms
http://www.thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/assets/331.pdf

so something like 90% Marris Otter, 5% torrified wheat 5% munich, although they make a few german beers so maybe they use proper munich so maybe add a bit more?

Standard american pale ale hopping I think

[Fat boy quiff]

Thank you for your prompt reply.

[Fat boy quiff]

Just thought, Nelson suavin has become increasingly difficult to get hold of lately?

[Hanglow]

It's a very popular hop

MAlt Miller has pellets but not whole cones

[Matt12398]

As said, Nelson Sauvin is the culprit. I'm not a fan of it on its own because I think it tastes like wine mixed with tar but it can go well with other hops.

[southcoastjim]

It is Nelson Sauvin, so called because it comes from Nelson in New Zealand where a lot of Sauvignon Blanc is grown. They share a lot of flavours.

Sauvignon is said to taste like 'cat's pee on a gooseberry bush' so perhaps youre not too far off with 'gorilla pee'

[Fat boy quiff]

Well I am glad you posted that southcoastjim, because I was feeling a little wierd with my gorilla pee discriptor. Now your 'cat pee on a goosberry bush' also hits the spot. Strange, I used to scoff at so called wine experts on the TV when they came out with strange discriptors like "a soggy tea bag on a freshley laid tarmac road" ( not a real one I just made that up). It's not until you try to explain in words what you can taste/smell that you find yourself coming out with the same drivell, but it works?

[UpTheToon]

I've just had my first taste of this recipe (an "Alpine Nelson" clone) I brewed a few weeks ago;

http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/com ... ew_nelson/

It uses Nelson and Southern Cross (another NZ hop) and has that distinctive Nelson taste that Kipling has.

Its still carbing up but I get the feeling its going to be a good 'un...

[BlackRocksBrewery]

I agree that Kiplng clone should be brewed with Nelson Sauvin. I love Nelson Sauvin hops but the frustrating thing - or maybe the exciting thing is that the hops have changed radically over the last few years.

The hops are in my opinion less aromatic and flavoursome than they were in the past few years.

You can see that things have changed by drinking draught beers from Brewdog and Thornbridge. Punk IPA has had its hops changed and Jaipur is no where near the aromatic hoppy beer it was in the past.