Pilsner Urquell recipe and technique

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:48 pm

steve_flack wrote:What about Horizon instead....are they more 'continental lager' than Magnum?

I have used Northern Brewer for some of the bittering in a PU style beer before and they work well.

maceyboy · Post by **maceyboy** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:23 pm

I think working out how to do a concoction mash is going to take some figuring out and not inconsiderable background reading ( anyone recommend good book aimed at semi-novice

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Hows Pacific Gem hops for bittering lager (not neccessarily for PU but generally)?

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:14 pm

maceyboy wrote:I think working out how to do a concoction mash is going to take some figuring out and not inconsiderable background reading ( anyone recommend good book aimed at semi-novice ).
Hows Pacific Gem hops for bittering lager (not neccessarily for PU but generally)?

For information on decoction mashing Greg Noonan's books are the best source for homebrewers. I have a well-worn copy of his original "Brewing Lager Beer" and his newer version gets excellent reports.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Brewing-Lag ... 0937381829

You can also scroll down in the thread below for one of my old posts on the subject.
viewtopic.php?t=160&highlight=decoction+mashing

Re Pacific Gem hops, I have never used them but from what I have read and what others I know have done with them they are probably not a good primary choice for a lager bittering hop. If you want a higher alpha hop for lager use the varieties mentioned in posts above like Magnum or Northern Brewer would be better choices IMO. BTW CaraFoam is indeed a CaraPils/Dextrine malt from the Weyermann Malting Company.

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:15 pm

Theres a good basic brewing radio podcast on decoction mashing:

http://www.basicbrewing.com/index.php?page=60

Scroll down to "November 23, 2006 - Decoction Mashing"

maceyboy · Post by **maceyboy** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:46 pm

oh dear! My posts should have read decoction, not concoction!!! Sorry for the spupidity, it must be all the bangs on the head I receive from the other half.

UserDeleted · Post by **UserDeleted** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:40 pm

maceyboy wrote:Hows Pacific Gem hops for bittering lager (not neccessarily for PU but generally)?

I find it excellent in Lagers . . . . But we tend to use it as a First Wort Hop. We found it to be really good used this way. and it's certainly handy going down from 1.2Kg of hops to around 250g in the pilot plant.

Another hop that we like is the NZ Saaz B at 8% alpha and a great Saaz character its really good for high hop profile Lagers. A lot of the British breweries use them in Pellet form, but the whole is so much better

steve_flack · Post by **steve_flack** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:42 pm

I've got both Saaz B and D in my freezer now....in pellet though.

Do you have any comments on the other NZ hops?

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:21 pm

I've got some NZ Nelson Sauvins on the way

steve_flack · Post by **steve_flack** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:26 pm

OOoo, from Ross??? They're supposed to be the ones like a white wine in flavour.

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:17 pm

Yeah from Ross along with a few packets of the Fermentis S-187 yeast (not for the same beer). That's what he said, makes a wine-like beer!

delboy · Post by **delboy** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:23 pm

mysterio wrote:Yeah from Ross along with a few packets of the Fermentis S-187 yeast (not for the same beer). That's what he said, makes a wine-like beer!

Is that S187 or S-189 the swiss lager yeast?

steve_flack · Post by **steve_flack** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:34 pm

S-189 is the 'Swiss Lager Yeast' - Hurlimann at a guess.

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