St Austell's Tribute

[EccentricDyslexic]

im storing them at 3c as im also storing lagers in the same kegerator, but i havnt got any problem cuz it warms up quick in this part of the world. U mentioned that the beer goes off faster, now wat time line is that? weeks?

I have seen a post on here somewhere that talks about timescales at different temperatures, will see if i can find it. But at your storage temps i cant see it being a problem in your case!

steve

[chrisr]

I'm storing at 'under the stairs' degrees. So it has been warmer than ideal these past few weeks. But I don't think that was the problem. Firstly because this brew had only been in the barrel a fortnight, non drawn off, and secondly, my previous brew had also gone off unexpectedly early. I had been suspecting my St A yeast was dodgy, but as this brew of Tribute didn't use that, it can't be the yeast.

I wish I had the room to get some sort of chilling device installed, but we're in a 2 up, 2 down.

[weiht]

I think that the tribute get more of its flavour and aroma from the williamette than styrians... As mentioned previously by chrisr and myself, the styrians shld only be used in moderation as the citrus/lemon flavour isnt supposed to be very sharp or pronounced. In fact, the very next time i attempt this brew again, i will try to hop more with williamette for aroma and some styrians only for finishing like the icing on the cake.

Reason being i find that through the last few attempts experimenting with the quantity of styrians, it has produced beers that are moving away more and more from what the tribute is like, although it is gd beer. Also, in my experiences of drinking ales that are hopped with styrians predominately or exclusively, it doesnt make me associate the tribute with it, like i would with other styrian beers.

I'd be hopping more with williamette and share my findings again...

[Capper20]

Had a pint of this at lunch today in Epsom. Absolutely fantastic. This is one to add to the list of brews to do!

[EccentricDyslexic]

Had a bottle of this last night, was dead excited after seeing this thread raving about it, but i must have had a bad bottle cus it was thin tasting, although i did get a wiff of blackcurrant and could taste what i think may be styrian goldings...i seem to interpert it slightly as beetroot and gerkins or an earthy background. could be wrong..im not an expert by anymeans

Steve

[weiht]

another great link http://www.beer-pages.com/protz/feature ... tell-2.htm

[Capper20]

I bought a bottle up for the oldman and to be honest it was OK, nothing like the pint in the pub though...

[garwatts]

I bought a bottle up for the oldman and to be honest it was OK, nothing like the pint in the pub though...

Bottled beer is invariably 'different' to the cask ale unfortunately . Lots of brewers don't even use the same recipe for the bottled as they do for the cask.

[micmacmoc]

I gathered all the bits together for 46 litres of this only to realise that the only yeasts I have are two packs of Notts. I used the US05 which I had specifically bought for Tribute yesterday on a SNPA style brew. Darn it!
Well I'm going to delay again, I want to do the best possible (proper!) job.
Had some 'Admirals Ale' last night, lovely stuff with that caramel/cascade and willamette flavour, superb. Is it really 90% ish Munich Malt? It does'nt taste as cloying as I would have expected that to have done. Don't mean to divert the thread, just commenting on St Austell generally. You would'nt recognise them from when i first tried their ales a dacade ago. Ryman is certainly the main man, what wonders he has done for the brewery! its the ship inn after work tonight and a PJ as well as a Tribute, research still needed!

[chrisr]

IMHO, Tribute in a bottle is nothing like Tribute from a cask. I don't like bottled Tribute at all, and would never buy it. If it isn't a different recipe, as garwatts suggests, then gawd knows what they do to it to make it so different.

[DarloDave]

Had a bottle of this last night, was dead excited after seeing this thread raving about it, but i must have had a bad bottle cus it was thin tasting, although i did get a wiff of blackcurrant and could taste what i think may be styrian goldings...i seem to interpert it slightly as beetroot and gerkins or an earthy background. could be wrong..im not an expert by anymeans

Steve

I did and thought the exact same a couple of days ago.

[SMASH3R]

Went to Cornwall a month ago and tried plenty or Tribute in both bottle and cask form. The cask is much more mellow, with more fruity and sweet hop flavours. Infact, after a few months aging in bottles it is much more like the brew I have done which used Bramling Cross instead of Willamette due to availability. The Tribute in a bottle is much more aromatic, lighter (thinner?) and refreshing(?), but this probably has a lot to do with the use of a higher degree of carbonation. I will be going at the next brew in a couple of weeks, and I now have the willamette hops so I will try those for comparison with the Bramling X.

Just MO and Munich this time too. No botching around with a few grams of crystal for colour with Vienna malt.

[weiht]

my friend just came back from the UK, and he bought me a bottle of landlord and tribute each... I am currently drinking the tribute, and i have to say it is VERY different from the cask version. the mouthfeel is lighter, maltiness is also not as distinctive and hop flavour seems different.

I do not get the nice citrus notes with some blackcurrant as well, but i do notice alot more of pineapples both in scent as well as taste. IBU seems lower as well.

The bottle version of the tribute taste alot like a bottle of abbot ale on the lighter side

[chrisr]

Earlier in the thead we were speculating about how long Tribute was matured for. I just found this in the Cornwall CAMRA magazine:

Now it seems, certain brewers are ‘conditioning’
some beers in conditioning tanks for up to a fortnight, be-
fore siphoning it off into casks for delivery to the pub.
There’s so little yeast in it that it is almost ‘bright’ beer, al-
though what little remains qualifies it technically as real ale.
But it has a short life according to the ‘sell before’ date, and
goes straight to the pub where it can be on sale within a few
hours. Landlords like it - little sediment to worry about.
Breweries like it, very little of the liquid is thrown away. And
we punters? Well, two of the prime Cornish offenders, I
shall call them ‘beer D’ and ‘beer T’ to protect their identi-
ties, sell well, but they are heavily advertised so no surprises
there, the same being true of keg lager. From my point of
view though, all too often these two beers (basically fine
brews) are too young and haven’t developed anything like
their potential - especially when bought in Cornwall. Yet
recently I had beer D in Peterborough and Reading, and
beer T in London, and each one was approaching what I
know they should be like, i.e.very good. Because they’d had
longer to mature during their travels? Who knows? But hey
- what happened to cask conditioning, guys?


I emphasise I've no idea what 'D' and 'T' actually are but Doom Bar and Tribute spring to mind. The 'D' & 'T' must be a clue or he'd have said 'A' & 'B'.

If so, then basically Tribute is matured a mere two weeks.

[chrisr]

Just started drinking my last Tribute brew and...it's awful! Far too sweet. I wonder what went wrong?

The differences between this on the previous one (which was quite good, I thought) are: (ironically) doubled the Williamette to 8IBU; changed the yeast from Gervin English Ale to Wyeast 1335; added the Styrians at flame-out rather than wait for cooling to 80c.