St Austell's Tribute

[weiht]

Doubt the hops affects the sweetness. Wats the og n fg of this batch? I just brewed a tribute but steep with williamette instead of styrians n 1318 yeast.. On a side note, i read an advert abt St austell having some open house to see their brewing process As well as free beer. Darn I can't be there

[chrisr]

No. It was 1046.

I've concluded that for whatever reason, the fermentation must have stopped early, or maybe when I barrelled it. It is slightly cloudy, too.

Ah well, yet another attempt goes on my list of things to do...

[weiht]

My last tribute brew is not too bad. Smell wise, i guess i pretty much nailed it. Taste wise, hmmm i used 1318 and the beer turned out a little dry and lacked the sweetness. Maybe I shldnt have fermented it at 18c for a change, previous was fermented at 22c. 1 more week of conditioning and its ready...

[chrisr]

What was in it this time?

[weiht]

malt remains the same, but i experimented a little on the hop front by switching the styrian n williamette. added styrians at 15 mins n williamette for steeping. resulted in a beer thats not very tribute like... also it ended a little high on the ibu side.

my finding so far is to defintely go with the styrian steeping, the sharp lemony taste should mellow out over time. i'd also probably use lesser fuggles to bitter and more williamette at 15 mins. Although its not a hoppy american type of beer, but the balance between the maltiness of the beer and the layers of hop notes is great.

[chrisr]

Yes, I think more Williamette than you'd think are needed. While the Styrians do give it that little citrusy zing, the real thing also has a lot of softer apple & blackberry notes to it. Courtesy the WIlliamette, I'd think. My recent attempts have been upping the Williamette, too.

Off to the St Austell beer fest on Saturday Undoubtedly there will be Tribute Extra on - Tribute but more so! I'll PM you the beer list, if you're interested.

[weiht]

that will be great if i could have the list, n maybe what u think of those beers. my mate got back from uk recently with a bottle of tribute which imo ois nothing like the cask.

i'd probably use lesser fuggles and lots more williamette

[chrisr]

The beer fest was great. Had a fantastic time. Loads of St A 'specials'. Tribute Extra was on, matured in bourbon casks. There was also a Proper Job Extra - really nice - Proper Job but more so. My favourite special was Proper Black. And it was black.

If anyone wants it, get back to me with an email address, and I'll forward the beer list.

[befuggled]

Eleven of us thought the Tribute Extra was nothing like Tribute but was excellent with the colour, aroma and taste from the bourbon casks.
We all thought Proper Cool Double Chilled IPA was just like bottled, but too cold! Korev was much better in bottles down at the White Hart.
I thought Son of a Gun was excellent, Starlings Dance Double IPA - SA's best yet.

Of the many other beers I tried (over 30, very generous half at £1.25 or try someone else's), the non SA winner was:
Steel City Brewing, Sheffield - Nightmare on Henry Street.
I have had some of theirs before at Merton, unbelievable!

Unfortunately driven out after three hours by the "music", crowd and general noise!
Glad I went, but would not go again.
(Gurkha Restaurant pretty good..)

[weiht]

Dudes, u 2 are making me jealous... The best English ales I can get here in asia are hobgoblin, London pride, abbots ale n old speckled hen, at least I can get a Gd range of wychwood here.

Would loved to be at the beer fest n drink those beers as well... Something about Cornish ales thats special

Btw, is that proper black a seasonal brew?

[chrisr]

Yes, I concur, Starlings Dance was a very nice drink. As was Prospect Pale Ale - only 3.8, but realy tasty. Proper Cool was much nicer warmed up, when it gained a lot more taste. Smugglers was just nectar in a glass - I wish you could buy that.

Yep, it gets very noisy and very full. We go for opening and are gone by teatime-ish, before it gets too bad.

Proper Black was a one-off, I believe, a response to a challenge.

[weiht]

going for this

80% Maris Otter
20% Munich
35g fuggles 60mins
35g willamette 15 mins
30g styrian 80c steep for 20 mins
going for london esb yeast this time around

[chrisr]

I see you've really upped the late Willamette!

I've just bottled a small 12L batch.

80% Pale
20% Munich
25 IBU Fuggles 90 mins
8 IBU Williamette 15 mins
4 IBU Styrians @80C for 20 mins

Too early to tell what it'll be like yet, but it certainly does smell of apples & blackberries. It's very sweet too. No citrus notes yet, I think it may need more of the Styrian, as you have done.

And I have actual Tribute yeast

[weiht]

wow, it seems like u will end up with 37 ibu??? I limited mine to about 28ibu this round, and its great that u have the SA yeast. Probably u may advise what other alternatives may work well with it?

Yeah I have increased the willamette and left the styrians at about 35g instead, reason being to get a more balanced blend of hops. One reason the styrians may have sticked out in the past could probably be a lack of willamette character, so by increasing the willamette i think i should keep the styrians as it is. Kinda like how a higher ibu beer in a high gravity beer may be perceived to be less bitter than one with a lower gravity and ibu. U get my drift?

[weiht]

I got very good efficiency on this brew and as a result may have screwed the bitterness a little. Reason being I have to dilute the wort to bring it lower, n thereby may have weaken te hop profile n character. As a result, I have to settle for 1052 og n an ibu of about 26... Damn