Deuchars IPA

[EportJake]

I'm more and more convinced. I have drunk several terrible pints of it each in a different pub, so it's not poor cellarpersonship.

Makes the wonderful world of homebrewing even more rewarding. We can continue to make the brew to the standards that commercial breweries are ditching. Brew on!

[arturobandini]

Apparently there is a recipe for this in the new Graham Wheeler. Anyone got the recipe to put up here for comparison with the Caledonian Brewery information?

[arturobandini]

Ordered it already!

Those was my first instincts Chris and perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick from Graham's posts regarding his book. Jumping the gun here really as this is the recipe for my first all grain. The reason I put this suggestion here is presumably Caledonian gave the same recipe to Graham as they gave to the brewer who emailed them? I'll wait until mine is delivered from Amazon if it ever is...

[Invalid Stout]

That still assumes the recipe hasn't changed since that earlier homebrewer got his info.

[arturobandini]

Presumably,

No offence to the recipes posted but Graham's ability to convey those ingredients and information is excellent. Like I said I'll hang on till I get my copy and see what treats are in store. If it's anything like the old version of the book I currently have then I'm very much looking forward to it.

[mysterio]

Does anyone get a kind of 'earthy' hop flavour from Deuchars? My versions have always been too heavy on the Styrians, while making a great beer, isn't quite the same when compared side by side. Is it the Williamette or Fuggle perhaps? Aurora?

[roger the dog]

Is it the Williamette or Fuggle perhaps? Aurora?

My version of it used all three & whilst it was a pleasant enough pint it was b*gger-all like Deuchers IPA

On the subject of the declining quality of the real thing, I had a couple of pints of it in Retford at the weekend & it was superb - as good as I can ever remember it

[Garth]

Does anyone get a kind of 'earthy' hop flavour from Deuchars? My versions have always been too heavy on the Styrians, while making a great beer, isn't quite the same when compared side by side. Is it the Williamette or Fuggle perhaps? Aurora?

mysty, I get an earthy taste sometimes from Deuchars, it's the Fuggles.

[Invalid Stout]

Williams Bros had "Hop Quiz" at Christmas -- a four-pack of beer, each bottle brewed to the same recipe except with different hops. I got the Styrians one right, purely from years of drinking Deuchars.

That's encouraging that you had a good pint, roger the dog. I shall give it another go. It's the most widely available cask ale up here so it would be quite a blow if it were to end up on my "undrinkable" list.

[smp465]

We occasionally get this in these parts, and i would describe the quality as highly variable. When it's good, it's very very good, but when it's bad, don't order another.

My clone is still relatively young, but i have noticed it changing already, and it's interesting that earthy is mentioned cos that was a word i used on my latest taste test earlier tonight. With passing time mine seems to get less representative of the real thing. Best drink it quick

[mysterio]

Does anyone get a kind of 'earthy' hop flavour from Deuchars? My versions have always been too heavy on the Styrians, while making a great beer, isn't quite the same when compared side by side. Is it the Williamette or Fuggle perhaps? Aurora?

mysty, I get an earthy taste sometimes from Deuchars, it's the Fuggles.

Cheers Garth

[arturobandini]

I always get heavy Elderflowers when I drink Deuchars.

Has anyone tried dry hopping this in the primary (post initial fermentation explosion) or in the secondary instead of the heavy late steeping of aroma hops? It seems a more cost effective Deuchars than this aroma monster.

[ADDLED]

I based my recipe on the information from that correspondance and have found the results to be pretty damn close. Its been in the keg for about 2 months and its good. One difference was that mine doesn't seem to want to completely clear, but I think that may be the wheat malt. Anyway:

Deuchars IPA (28L)

4900g Golden Promise
250g Wheat Malt

16g Aurora
16g Fuggles
20g Styrian Goldings (all 60 min boil)

26g Williamette
82g Styrian Goldings (15 min boil)

585g Brown Sugar

SO4

4.4% ABV, 27.5 IBU, Colour 9.3

Wow Jake, thats twice the hop additions that the brewer recommended. I bet it took a little time to smooth out the edges. How long have you left to mature?

Why would they use a lot less hops commercially? Do brewers use less hops to reduce the maturation time?

[escapizm]

The commercial brews gone up 25p a bottle in asda! Look forward to getting my AG kit to make my own.

[mysterio]

Is it just me or is the bottled version not up to much. I had a few cans of it the other day which was better. Still not as good as the draught though.