anyone got a recipe for CH'TI ambere ?

[BitterTed]

cool , that will save me half an hour then although if ive got enough for two batches i could do my own experiment couldnt i , hmmmm...

Now you're talking!! If you do, make sure to post your findings!

[BigEd]

I think Denny Conn and some other brewers did an experiment comparing step mashed beers against single infusion. The conclusion was there was no discernable difference (iirc).
I'm sure it's mentioned on the Denny Conn interview on the Brewing Network.

Denny Conn!! Oh boy, don't get BigEd started!!
I don't taste a difference when using a step mash either, but Denny will tell you that he doesn't notice any difference after a decoction and finds it a waste of time.

Too late for that now, Ted. Taste difference with a step infusion mash? Probably not, but using a decoction mash is a different story. The Denny Conn contingent in the US claims that 50% of the experienced taster/judges couldn't tell the difference between the same beer made with and without a decoction. As a devoted decoction masher for many years I have a different opinion. IMO doing a step mash via decoction with that beer will improve the brew, both in flavor and conversion.

[BigEd]

I think Denny Conn and some other brewers did an experiment comparing step mashed beers against single infusion. The conclusion was there was no discernable difference (iirc).
I'm sure it's mentioned on the Denny Conn interview on the Brewing Network.

Denny Conn!! Oh boy, don't get BigEd started!!
I don't taste a difference when using a step mash either, but Denny will tell you that he doesn't notice any difference after a decoction and finds it a waste of time.

Missed this one
I'm liking this Denny guy more and more...anyone who makes me feel justifed in sticking with single infusion (when really i'm too lazy to do anything else) is OK on my books

I came to Jim's to escape cult of Conn.

Frankly you can make almost any beer with modern malts, certainly UK and even Continental and North American, with single infusion mashes. I do not dispute that. What I have issue with is that the cult of Conn dismisses the potential benefits of other methods. I have seen many homebrewers on American forums ask for help in doing step mashes only to be told by cult members that they shouldn't do it. I guess I just don't take kindly to religious or brewing proselytizing.

[steve_flack]

Probably not, but using a decoction mash is a different story. The Denny Conn contingent in the US claims that 50% of the experienced taster/judges couldn't tell the difference between the same beer made with and without a decoction. As a devoted decoction masher for many years I have a different opinion. IMO doing a step mash via decoction with that beer will improve the brew, both in flavor and conversion.

Each to his own but I'd rather save a few hours off my brewday and buy my melanoidins.

[steve_flack]

It's OK....I discovered he doesn't like Stella, the best mass produced larger imo

Sadly I would have to disagree - I don't like Stella - it's better than Carling though which is positively nasty. I prefer Grolsch or Heineken myself.

[bitter_dave]

kronenbourg 1664 is my favourite mass produced lager; Heineken in this country is supposed to be better now isn't it, now they've upped the ABV? In any case I'm not a huge fan of lager in general nowadays.

[steve_flack]

Heineken in this country is supposed to be better now isn't it, now they've upped the ABV?

Yep it's now all brewed in Holland and is 5% ABV (it's not the Whitbread rubbish)

[steve_flack]

The one and the same. It's now the only stuff they sell here.

[steve_flack]

Sadly, that's unlikely as Scottish & Newcastle have purchased the rights to the beer everywhere except Australia. So we're stuck with the stuff.

[ColinKeb]

ive just looked again at this recipie and it calls for 15 gms saaz hops for 0 mins ? doe sthat mean they go in with the yeast at the end to be left or what?

[tubby_shaw]

ive just looked again at this recipie and it calls for 15 gms saaz hops for 0 mins ? doe sthat mean they go in with the yeast at the end to be left or what?

Chuck 'em in the boiler as you turn the power off at the end of the boil and stir them in

[ColinKeb]

cheers

[ColinKeb]

teh element on my boiler has gone now! it wont get up to a rolling boil at all, ive even rewired it straight tot eh plug in case it was the thermostat but its not. i took the temp with my digital thermometer and it reads 132 degrees C ! im renaming this brew "jinxed"

[tubby_shaw]

132º C and it's not boiling
I think your element and thermometer are pregnant

[ColinKeb]

i think theres some kind of electromagnetic surge near me thats sent all my gear up the spout. ive tested the thermometer on ice which is apparently 34 degrees C ! ah well at least something alcoholic will come out the other end