Jaipur Recipe from IPA book
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OK what about a Munich wheat beer yeast? That's only a guess by the way but it is outside the box for a US styled IPA. If I manage to get 6 miles up the road and ask them I might get a proper answer (if they are not too unforthcoming that is) . I am currently supping my attempt at a Jaipur Clone as its superb here on draught in Sheffield and obviously not too far from the brewery itself. The bottled version is available at Waitrose and although very good the difference is like listening to a CD and then seeing a good band live! I had already put in a fairly big order from Worcester Hop Shop when I came across some comments on a US site relating to a clone recipe from one of the guys who now work for Thornbridge. I realised that I had got 2 out of the 3 hops required (Chinook & Centennial) and in the absence of Ahtenum I substituted 1oz of Amarillo on the assumption that the whole point of this brew was an in yer face US IPA so low AA GB hops were gonna get sand kicked in their face. I also didn't have any munich or caramalt so substituted some dark crystal and I used the only yeast I had available at the time which was SS-3.
My recipe was (and I'm an old git wot uses pounds and ounces to record in my brewing log so you'll have to convert!)
OG achieved was 1048
12lb crushed pale (Maris Otter)
8oz dark crystal
1oz Amarillo hops
1/2 oz Chinook hops
1/2 oz Centennial hops
(1/2 oz each Chinook & Centennial 10 mins prior to flameout)
1/2 oz each Chinook & Centennial at flameout)
SS-3 yeast
The yeast took off like a rocket and was pretty much done in 2/3 days which took me by surprise. I have never used this yeast before and have always been a bit suspect of "racing fermentations" but the fermentation temp was not too high so I am reserving judgement seeing as how some modern yeasts (and even venerable ones like Guinness's own) can get the job done in a few days without off flavours.
I left it in the FV for a few more days and then stuck it into a cask where it has now been for 7 days. The colour is definitely darker than Jaipur so if you were gonna use crystal instead of Munich/Caramunich just use a few oz at most. I think the recipe I saw called for about 3/4 lb Caramunich or Carapils but it would have to be pretty light stuff at that ratio not to give a darker shade than the bottled Jaipur I had the other day. At only a week in cask this ale obviously needs more time to knit together but at the moment it is definitely in the right ball-park and has bags of flavour. In another couple of weeks or so I will do an A/B with a shop or brewery bought sample and post some more comments. The OG achieved was also a bit shy but I am putting that down to the Bairds malt batch that I used. This is the second batch I have used and I have come to the conclusion that it has 1thing in it's favour and 1 property which is a double edged sword. It is cheaper (good) but also more coarsely ground than other malts I have used (good for avoiding set mashes and facilitating sparging but also seems to release less sugars hence lower OG)
My recipe was (and I'm an old git wot uses pounds and ounces to record in my brewing log so you'll have to convert!)
OG achieved was 1048
12lb crushed pale (Maris Otter)
8oz dark crystal
1oz Amarillo hops
1/2 oz Chinook hops
1/2 oz Centennial hops
(1/2 oz each Chinook & Centennial 10 mins prior to flameout)
1/2 oz each Chinook & Centennial at flameout)
SS-3 yeast
The yeast took off like a rocket and was pretty much done in 2/3 days which took me by surprise. I have never used this yeast before and have always been a bit suspect of "racing fermentations" but the fermentation temp was not too high so I am reserving judgement seeing as how some modern yeasts (and even venerable ones like Guinness's own) can get the job done in a few days without off flavours.
I left it in the FV for a few more days and then stuck it into a cask where it has now been for 7 days. The colour is definitely darker than Jaipur so if you were gonna use crystal instead of Munich/Caramunich just use a few oz at most. I think the recipe I saw called for about 3/4 lb Caramunich or Carapils but it would have to be pretty light stuff at that ratio not to give a darker shade than the bottled Jaipur I had the other day. At only a week in cask this ale obviously needs more time to knit together but at the moment it is definitely in the right ball-park and has bags of flavour. In another couple of weeks or so I will do an A/B with a shop or brewery bought sample and post some more comments. The OG achieved was also a bit shy but I am putting that down to the Bairds malt batch that I used. This is the second batch I have used and I have come to the conclusion that it has 1thing in it's favour and 1 property which is a double edged sword. It is cheaper (good) but also more coarsely ground than other malts I have used (good for avoiding set mashes and facilitating sparging but also seems to release less sugars hence lower OG)
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Re: Jaipur Recipe from IPA book
American Ale/Chico/Sierra Nevada/US-05, then?
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Seymour was right all along 

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The recipe I posted was from the IPA book by Mitch Steel.
I used the Wy1056 for my brew and can concur its very close. IMO wlp007 will not get you near the jaipur, it makes the profile of the beer very stone brewery like but nothing like the clean neutral yeast profile of the jaipur.
My guess is either pacman yeast, or something Brooklyn Brewery is using for their pale ales or IPA. Reason being the pacman is pretty similar to the wy1056 but it doesnt finish that dry and leaves some body in the beer. I stated Brooklyn solely due the the fact that their brewmaster was a guest when the brewery started??
But no surprises that they used non british strain! lol, the choice of hops pretty much gave it away
I used the Wy1056 for my brew and can concur its very close. IMO wlp007 will not get you near the jaipur, it makes the profile of the beer very stone brewery like but nothing like the clean neutral yeast profile of the jaipur.
My guess is either pacman yeast, or something Brooklyn Brewery is using for their pale ales or IPA. Reason being the pacman is pretty similar to the wy1056 but it doesnt finish that dry and leaves some body in the beer. I stated Brooklyn solely due the the fact that their brewmaster was a guest when the brewery started??
But no surprises that they used non british strain! lol, the choice of hops pretty much gave it away

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Re: Jaipur Recipe from IPA book
WLP090 San Diego Super Yeast?
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Getting very close now.
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Champagne? 
I've done it with Cali Ale (WLP001) before....so that would be my guess.

I've done it with Cali Ale (WLP001) before....so that would be my guess.
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A blend?Cozzyb wrote:Cali is the right lines, thing more outside the box a little.schlafsack wrote:WLP051 California Ale V?
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