fuggles and goldings

[frany8472]

hi. I have 6kg of pale malt 1kg of crystal. 100g of fuggles and goldings. And some chockate malts. I'm looking for a hoppy drink. No more that 4% can anyone help

[Garth]

I made something like this ages ago, came out as a nice hoppy guzzler because of the low alcohol

23 litres
OG 1038
IBU 31
EBC 11

Pale Malt 3.8kg
Crystal Malt 150g

Mash Temp 66C
Mash Time 90mins

Fuggle 40g 60mins
Golding 40g 10mins
Fuggle 30g 0mins (steep for 20mins)
Golding 30g 0mins (steep for 20mins)
Dry hop with 10-20g each for even more hoppiness if you want

Boil 60mins

Yeast Nottingham or US-05

[frany8472]

that sounds good. I'll make that. What does it taste like.

[Garth]

Has a good English bitter taste due to the hops, good smooth bitterness and the flavour/aroma is earthy from the Fuggles and flowery from the Goldings, you could add a bit more crystal if you want a bit more toffee/sweetness

I'm drinking as brew at the moment which has 5% dark crystal and 2.5% light, it has a nice hint of toffee.

[leigh1919]

I have some spare fuggles/goldings kicking around and may give this a try - but would want more crystal in it as do like that toffee flavour - would 3kg pale and 2kg crystal tip that balance into a more amber beer do you reckon?

[mysterio]

Yowzer! 2kg is way too much. I wouldn't go more than 10% crystal malt, any more would be pushing it into cloyingly sweet territory. Some mild recipes go up to about 15%, they can get away with it because they need the body and sweetness to make up for the low gravity.

If you doubled the amount of crystal in Garth's recipe, then you'd have something approaching an amber beer, try punching it into a calculator to see what kind of colour you'd get, and remember to specify what grade of crystal it is.

[Garth]

oh aye, heed Mysterio's advice, avoid large amounts, ie more than 10%, of crystal and chocolate malt, they both can give sickly cloying tastes, been there, done it, spoilt the beer......

[leigh1919]

wow - didnt know that - cheers guys, avoided a potential cockup right there...

[subsub]

The only beer it's worked in is Coal Seam (MO recipe) and that'll put hairs on yer chest

[leigh1919]

Hi - still looking at this recipe and thinking it's gonna be on the list next up - what difference would a 90 minute boil make?

im going to try and go for a slightly darker version of it but first time brewing AG with darker malts (only used the tried and tested MO before now)

[Garth]

a 90 min boil will extract slightly more bitterness from the 60 (90mins) hops, and slightly darken the wort a bit more.

if you are wanting a darker beer you can either use Dark Crystal (120EBC) and use a bit more of it,

or if you aren't wanting to neccessarily change the flavour you could add a very small quantity of Black Malt.