St Peters Golden Ale

[Talisman]

I tried a bottle of this last night and really enjoyed it. Ive not brewed for about 3-4 months due to an op and busy busy at work so am setting aside saturday to brew again.

Anyone got a recipe for this?

Tally

[floydmeddler]

Couldn't find any info online. Checked the website and they don't even specify the hops that they use so you won't be able to mess around with ideas yourself. You're right, it is a very nice beer. I doubt you'll find a recipe though. It seems they like to keep it to themselves... sadly.

[Talisman]

thats a bugger.

Any one got a suggestion for a nice golden ale (pref using Challenger Hops as i have 100g of those hehe)

[Jymbo]

Just checked the St Peter's online shop and they give the following tasting notes for the Golden Ale:

"English Pale malts coupled with Challenger and Goldings hops provide the bitterness and aroma. The result is a highly distinctive light, golden ale..."

So you could try something like mostly MO with a few percent crystal, 100g of wheat malt for head retention, 30IBUs of Challenger for bittering, 20g Goldings at 10mins for flavour and another 20g steeped at 80C after the boil.

Even if it isn't identical, it should still taste good.

[floydmeddler]

Just checked the St Peter's online shop and they give the following tasting notes for the Golden Ale:

"English Pale malts coupled with Challenger and Goldings hops provide the bitterness and aroma. The result is a highly distinctive light, golden ale..."

So you could try something like mostly MO with a few percent crystal, 100g of wheat malt for head retention, 30IBUs of Challenger for bittering, 20g Goldings at 10mins for flavour and another 20g steeped at 80C after the boil.

Even if it isn't identical, it should still taste good.

That would taste damn good!

[escapizm]

Just checked the St Peter's online shop and they give the following tasting notes for the Golden Ale:

"English Pale malts coupled with Challenger and Goldings hops provide the bitterness and aroma. The result is a highly distinctive light, golden ale..."

So you could try something like mostly MO with a few percent crystal, 100g of wheat malt for head retention, 30IBUs of Challenger for bittering, 20g Goldings at 10mins for flavour and another 20g steeped at 80C after the boil.

Even if it isn't identical, it should still taste good.

hi jymbo as a newbie (this will be my 2nd ag) could you be bit more specific please, I presume mo is marris otter. Your sugestion sounds tasty I just need some details so I can mail barley bottom a shopping list. Ive drank gallons of st peters golden ale so may make this one 46 litre batch to test my new 60 litre boiler.

Thanks in advance

[craigmarshall]

So you could try something like mostly MO with a few percent crystal, 100g of wheat malt for head retention, 30IBUs of Challenger for bittering, 20g Goldings at 10mins for flavour and another 20g steeped at 80C after the boil.

hi jymbo as a newbie (this will be my 2nd ag) could you be bit more specific please, I presume mo is marris otter. Your sugestion sounds tasty I just need some details so I can mail barley bottom a shopping list. Ive drank gallons of st peters golden ale so may make this one 46 litre batch to test my new 60 litre boiler.

Yes Escapizm - MO probably means maris otter. Based on what Jymbo estimates (assuming he's talking about a 23l batch, and assuming a few % is 5%), here are the specific weights, etc. you'd need to add to brew 46 litres. Halve it all, of course, if you want to brew a standard 23l batch:

Pale malt 8080g
Wheat malt 200g
Crystal malt 435g (5%)

Challenger hops 7.6%AA 64g @ 90 mins
Golding hops 4.6%AA 40g @ 10 mins
Golding hops 40g @ 0 mins

Here are the other bits:

OG 1.048
Estimated FG (depending on yeast): 1.011
Estimated ABV: 4.7% (taken from St. Peters website)
Colour: 18 EBC
Bitterness: 30 IBU (Jymbo's idea)
Final Volume 46l

(Graham Wheeler's beer engine strikes again!)

Hope this is helpful - PS: you'd better have a big mash tun too

Cheers,
Craig

PS: 90-odd bottles of beer is a lot of beer to drink in case you're not completely happy with it... If it were me, I'd perhaps make a 11.5l or standard 23l batch, then scale up if (when) it turns out right. After reading others' posts, some people seem to make ten or more attempts at copying a beer until they're happy with it. I'd rather be working on version 2 after 20 or 40 bottles rather than 80 or 90...

[escapizm]

Thanks craig

guess your right I'll make 23 length first time. What yeast would you recommend, notingham perhaps?

Mash tun is huge, Coleman extreme! As per barnsleybrewer design off here.

Thanks again.

[craigmarshall]

guess your right I'll make 23 length first time. What yeast would you recommend, notingham perhaps?

No idea really. I've only done 3 brews myself and used S-04 for all three.

I do have a couple of sachets of danstar nottingham though which I would probably use for this kind of thing, it's meant to have a cleaner taste than S-04. I think a cleaner and less yeasty taste would particularly suit a golden ale.

Be sure to post your results!

Cheers,
Craig

[Jymbo]

hi jymbo as a newbie (this will be my 2nd ag) could you be bit more specific please, I presume mo is marris otter. Your sugestion sounds tasty I just need some details so I can mail barley bottom a shopping list. Ive drank gallons of st peters golden ale so may make this one 46 litre batch to test my new 60 litre boiler.

Thanks in advance

Hi escapizm - I've thrown together a recipe based on 70% efficiency. I've also upped the IBUs slightly to compensate for the fairly high OG and keep the BU:GU ratio around the 0.7-0.75 range. Remember to change the AA content for your specific hops. Try to keep the BU:GU ratio around the same. You can do this by simply increasing or decreasing the amount of Challenger used for bittering. I've used the Recipe Formulator on my website, but you can use any brewing software to get roughly similar results and a few IBUs here or there won't make any difference.

Jymbo

[escapizm]

Thanks jymbo. Nice site and the calculators great too. I'll be back to peruse recipies.

Thanks

[escapizm]

hi jymbo as a newbie (this will be my 2nd ag) could you be bit more specific please, I presume mo is marris otter. Your sugestion sounds tasty I just need some details so I can mail barley bottom a shopping list. Ive drank gallons of st peters golden ale so may make this one 46 litre batch to test my new 60 litre boiler.

Thanks in advance

Hi escapizm - I've thrown together a recipe based on 70% efficiency. I've also upped the IBUs slightly to compensate for the fairly high OG and keep the BU:GU ratio around the 0.7-0.75 range. Remember to change the AA content for your specific hops. Try to keep the BU:GU ratio around the same. You can do this by simply increasing or decreasing the amount of Challenger used for bittering. I've used the Recipe Formulator on my website, but you can use any brewing software to get roughly similar results and a few IBUs here or there won't make any difference.

Jymbo

Is this the same as St Peters Organic Ale?

[Jymbo]

Is this the same as St Peters Organic Ale?

No

[escapizm]

I recently emailed the St Peters brewery regarding their brew St Peters Organic Ale and was pleasantly surprised when the head brewer emailed me back the recipe. I asked if he would mind me posting on my favorite craft brew website but after consultation with his MD he was advised they may well move in to the craft brew market themselves so would have to look into the implications before permitting me. I asked is there move in all grain or extract but have yet to have a reply. I respect their decision so the secrets safe with me but ill surely compare the following ASAP and let you know.

A) The real thing (currently £1 insteasd of £1.58 at ASDA)

vs

b) St Peters recipe albeit without the organic ingredients and their yeast etc etc

vs

c) The Barley Bottom recipe Paul found at my request ill be putting on next