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Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:26 pm

I'd like to brew a Psudo-Lager, something bland...

Is the following just too much of a waste of good Hersbrucker? Any suggestions for something tasteless and bland for the stereotypical Lager drinker would be appreciated ;) Something that wouldn't offend the weak of pallet and those lacking in good taste!

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Fermentable	Colour	lb: oz	Grams	Ratio
Golden Promise	5 EBC	6 lbs. 9.8 oz	3000 grams	60%
Flaked Barley	3 EBC	3 lbs. 4.9 oz	1500 grams	30%
Munich Malt	20 EBC	1 lbs. 1.6 oz	500 grams	10%

Hop Variety	Type	Alpha	Time	lb: oz	grams	Ratio
Celeia	Whole	5.1 %	60 mins	0 lbs. 1.6 oz	45 grams	47.4%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker	Whole	2.9 %	60 mins	0 lbs. 1.1 oz	30 grams	31.6%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker	Whole	2.9 %	15 mins	0 lbs. 0.7 oz	20 grams	21.1%

Final Volume:	23	Litres
Original Gravity:	1.047	
Final Gravity:	1.011	
Alcohol Content:	4.6%	ABV
Total Liquor:	33.3	Litres
Mash Liquor:	12.5	Litres
Mash Efficiency:	75	%
Bitterness:	35.7767000742557	EBU
Colour:	10	EBC

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by 6470zzy » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:54 pm

It seems an awful waste of Golden Promise, sinful almost :shock: Couldn't you just buy them some Coors Light?

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by haz66 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:43 pm

I think your IBU`s are a little too high for a lager
they wanna be more around 20 ish, so you can use less of them :D
not wasting as much

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by Horden Hillbilly » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:50 pm

pdnc wrote:I'd like to brew a Psudo-Lager, something bland...
You could give Mrs H's lager a go.

Lager Malt 2816g
British Caramalt 402g
Flaked Maize 402g
Brewing Sugar 402g
Saaz Hops 20 Bittering units, added at start of the boil.
Estimated OG 1042


This is a typical uk style lager & I only hope that she does not see this post or I am in for a thumping! :lol: [-X

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:17 pm

Cheers guys... you've given me some ideas :)
Ordered a bit of maize and lager malt now.

HH, I presume thats on 23L brew length?

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by Whorst » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:54 am

You don't need maize. If you're going to go cheap, just use lager malt and about 15 IBU's.

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:23 am

pdnc wrote:HH, I presume thats on 23L brew length?
Yeah, based on 78% effiency, estimated og 1042.

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Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:29 am

Whorst: I wanted to try some Maize out anyway so its a fair excuse to get some. I'll work on the 15-20IBU's as suggested here though.. no late copper hops? :)

HH, thanks... I'll probably leave out the sugar, maybe replace with Flaked barley :)

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:37 am

pdnc wrote:HH, thanks... I'll probably leave out the sugar, maybe replace with Flaked barley
Please be aware that the sugar makes up 10% of the recipe & replacing it with flaked barley may cause a haze problem. I found this on the H&G website.
Flaked cereals can, however, cause haze problems in paler styles, where the percentage should not exceed 5% ... Max. 10%
pdnc wrote:No late copper hops?
Not in this bland recipe, but that is how Mrs H likes it! However, it's your brew, if you like a lager with copper hops, get them in there.

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:43 am

So possibly better to up the Lager Malt and remove the Flaked barley, Probably bitter with Perle hops which a AA8.3 and throw in a 5 minute Saaz addition.
:)

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I might Just add a little sugar!
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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by Horden Hillbilly » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:47 am

pdtnc wrote:So possibly better to up the Lager Malt and remove the Flaked barley, Probably bitter with Perle hops which a AA8.3 and throw in a 5 minute Saaz addition.
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Looks ok to me.

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:54 am

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Lager

Fermentable	Colour	lb: oz	Grams	Ratio
Lager Malt	2.5 EBC	6 lbs. 9.8 oz	3000 grams	76.9%
Caramalt	20 EBC	0 lbs. 14.0 oz	400 grams	10.3%
Flaked Maize	3 EBC	0 lbs. 14.0 oz	400 grams	10.3%
Sugar, Household White	0 EBC	0 lbs. 3.5 oz	100 grams	2.6%

Hop Variety	Type	Alpha	Time	lb: oz	grams	Ratio
Perle	Whole	8.25 %	60 mins	0 lbs. 0.7 oz	20 grams	50%
Saaz	Whole	3.3 %	5 mins	0 lbs. 0.7 oz	20 grams	50%

Final Volume:	23	Litres
Original Gravity:	1.038	
Final Gravity:	1.009	
Alcohol Content:	3.8%	ABV
Total Liquor:	32.1	Litres
Mash Liquor:	9.5	Litres
Mash Efficiency:	75	%
Bitterness:	20	EBU
Colour:	5	EBC

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by haz66 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:42 am

Now that looks a lot blander :D ,
I (well the missus) can vouch for HH recipe as thats what i based my lager on,
the only difference is i use Crystal hops instead of Saaz.

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Re: Psudo Lager - for tasteless bland people?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:01 pm

The idea is to create something fairly cheap that won't offend their tastes and will be appreciated by our builders... I'm guessing they are not particularly into their 'Real Ale', but they are doing a good job so thought I'd brew a bit of a Thank you for when they finish the job. :)

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Post by haz66 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:52 pm

pdtnc wrote:The idea is to create something fairly cheap that won't offend their tastes and will be appreciated by our builders... I'm guessing they are not particularly into their 'Real Ale', but they are doing a good job so thought I'd brew a bit of a Thank you for when they finish the job. :)
Nice gesture =D>

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