Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
I did a first attempt at this last year using only Willamette. A very drinkable pale ale, but not Pale Rider.
I have seen it variously described as North American Hops or American and German hops.
Target date for consumption at a fairly large family/friends party - 21st August (along with Butty Bach, which I have got fairly close now...)
Any ideas please?
I have seen it variously described as North American Hops or American and German hops.
Target date for consumption at a fairly large family/friends party - 21st August (along with Butty Bach, which I have got fairly close now...)
Any ideas please?
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
good luck with that mate!
if you find a half decent recipe for it let us know. it is probably my favourite pale beer.i e-mailed the brewery and they ignored me.
KJ
if you find a half decent recipe for it let us know. it is probably my favourite pale beer.i e-mailed the brewery and they ignored me.
KJ
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Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Not much, but here's what I've seen. Sounds like a fairly typical golden ale with late grapefruity Cascades.
Kelham Island Pale Rider
OG: 1052
ABV: 5.2%
IBU: 30
Colour: clear golden
Grainbill: 100% Maris Otter
Bittering Hops: Willamette, Columbus
Aroma Hops: Cascade, Citra
Kelham Island Pale Rider
OG: 1052
ABV: 5.2%
IBU: 30
Colour: clear golden
Grainbill: 100% Maris Otter
Bittering Hops: Willamette, Columbus
Aroma Hops: Cascade, Citra
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Wow and i only had to wait three years for it...
Thanks mate:mrgreen:
Thanks mate:mrgreen:
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
I found this recipe (though can't remember where!)
Brewed it and it was a great beer, seems though different hops to that suggested by seymour
Effin Pale Rider
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 13 lbs. 2.9 oz 5980 grams 90%
Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 20 mins 0 lbs. 0.8 oz 23 grams 22.3%
Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 14 grams 13.6%
Styrian Bobek Whole 3.99 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 2.3 oz 66 grams 64.1%
Final Volume: 30 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.045
Final Gravity: 1.010
Alcohol Content: 4.5% ABV
Total Liquor: 42 Litres
Mash Liquor: 15 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 36.8996210654878 EBU
Colour: 7 EBC
Brewed it and it was a great beer, seems though different hops to that suggested by seymour
Effin Pale Rider
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 13 lbs. 2.9 oz 5980 grams 90%
Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 20 mins 0 lbs. 0.8 oz 23 grams 22.3%
Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 14 grams 13.6%
Styrian Bobek Whole 3.99 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 2.3 oz 66 grams 64.1%
Final Volume: 30 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.045
Final Gravity: 1.010
Alcohol Content: 4.5% ABV
Total Liquor: 42 Litres
Mash Liquor: 15 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 36.8996210654878 EBU
Colour: 7 EBC
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
I think a big part of Pale Rider's taste is from the yeast. The reason I think this is because I've brewed a few times with that yeast and all the beers were 1. brilliant and 2. "Kelham Islandy" in flavour. They've stopped doing bottle conditioned Pale Rider now, but they told me they would do me an unfined minikeg if I ring up in advance, so I will be back on it eventually. Highly recommend that yeast. Is it wort trying to get Brewlab to stock it?
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
If they don't store it already? Have you asked them. Kelham Island isn't that old a brewery I would suspect they either use a known strain or a now mutated strain, for example Shep Neame have a mutated strain that gives them their taste, and brewlabs have this on file, so they make have Kelhams.
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Any chance you could give me the recipe mate? I have loads of Willamette to use up.befuggled wrote:I did a first attempt at this last year using only Willamette. A very drinkable pale ale, but not Pale Rider.
I have seen it variously described as North American Hops or American and German hops.
Target date for consumption at a fairly large family/friends party - 21st August (along with Butty Bach, which I have got fairly close now...)
Any ideas please?
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Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Broadly speaking, Willamette is an Americanized Fuggles-replacement. I realize it's not as classic, but you could simply use it in any recipe calling for Fuggles.
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Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Similar to the yeast from Abbeydale...it ferments for ever, when you think its finished, it starts all over again. it is an absolute sod to clear as it does not floctulate well.
A tweety bird told me that they got the original strain from Holts in Manchester
A tweety bird told me that they got the original strain from Holts in Manchester
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
I can't remember if I've ever bottled with it, but whenever I've used it in barrels, KI yeast has been excellent at dropping clear quickly. It has also been nice and quick to ferment...robbarwell wrote:Similar to the yeast from Abbeydale...it ferments for ever, when you think its finished, it starts all over again. it is an absolute sod to clear as it does not floctulate well.
A tweety bird told me that they got the original strain from Holts in Manchester
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Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
Long shot...I've got a bottle of this from Azda..4 bottles for a fiver..hic burrp..Fantastic Beer it is. I'm not getting a lot of Cascade but getting a hint of Brewers Gold.Is it a blend of BG and Cascade with Willamette
Re: Kelham Island Pale Rider anyone?
I can confirm the hops as they are identified in the Witherspoon's tasting notes for pale rider. Without a figure for the IBU its not easy to work out the quantity of hops. However the hops are Willamette, Columbus, Cascade and Citra.