Winter Porter / Stout - Munich?

[chivelegs]

Morning,

I'm planning a Christmas stout or porter and have a couple of kilos of Munich malt looking unloved in the store. Would this be a good addition to MO for a strong-ish (6% or so) recipe?

[dave-o]

Yes, should be great for adding rich maltiness.

[chivelegs]

Pale Malt 5 EBC 8 lbs. 13.0 oz 4000 grams 58%
Munich Malt 20 EBC 4 lbs. 6.5 oz 2000 grams 29%
Roasted Barley 1350 EBC 0 lbs. 10.5 oz 300 grams 4.3%
Crystal Malt 130 EBC 0 lbs. 8.8 oz 250 grams 3.6%
Black Malt 1300 EBC 0 lbs. 3.5 oz 100 grams 1.4%
Chocolate Malt 1050 EBC 0 lbs. 8.8 oz 250 grams 3.6%

Something along these lines then.

Hops, I'm thinking along the lines of Northdown and / or Goldings. Any thoughts?

[WishboneBrewery]

Or Northdown & Goilding A bit of both might be a good solid combo.

[Manx Guy]

Bump!

Chivelegs - did you make a Winter Porter in the end? Or is it soemhting you plan to do but haven't got round to?

I'm now thinking along the lines of a dark brew for my first AG - a porter might just be the ticket...

I have been given a recipe for a 'Anchor porter clone' ( a commercial brew I quite like) but maybe a more traditional english porter might be in order...

Cheers

Guy

[boingy]

The Ringwood XXXX porter clone from Graham's book is superb. It's even converted people who "don't like dark beer". I'm well on the way to finishing my 4th cornie of it...
It doesn't use Munich but I reckon it would be a great first AG brew.

[coatesg]

My Ringwood Porter was pretty good too - though I thought it was more like a weak Old Ale - I did use Wy1335 which can leave things quite dry though. I'd maybe try the WLP005 next time, but adding Munich to a porter recipe would add more maltiness too and it works well.

Still, can't beat a bit of brown malt IMHO - the Fullers London Porter (in Graham's book also) ticks the boxes for me here.

[Manx Guy]

Hi guys!

Noted- I have the 3rd edition of Mr Wheelers book, and I had put post its on the Ringwood and the Salem Porters (I think-dont have the book in front of me)

I've not used a White labs or any other 'wet' yeast yet - didn't see the point as up till now my brews hav been kits or ME brews - I think I've got the basics down so have got an AG set up together in preperation of going the whole hog and doing my first full mash all grain beer!

I'll probably use a dry yeast ( I have SO4 & Nottingham in the fridge) unless you really recommend using a WL yeast. If so is there one that would be suitable for splitting and using in a range of ales( I'm a tight get) ?

Cheers!



Guy

[boingy]

I used SO4 (as I do for pretty much anything) and it suited it well. I'm also too much of a tightarse to pay liquid yeast prices and also too lazy to split a pack to make it go further.

I should add the caveat that I prefer porter to be a little dry and not too strong so the Ringwood recipe was right up my street. I think it is that dryness that won over the non-dark beer drinkers - many people expect a dark beer to be a bit sickly sweet.

I should also add that I have not brewed a bad beer from Graham's book yet so take yyr pick I reckon.

[Manx Guy]

Cheers Boingy!

The ME brews I've done from BYOBRA have turned out well -despite this beginersoften cack handed technique!

I noticed that a few of the pale ales I did had the tang from the Liquid malt extract but none of the dark beers (SH Ruby & hydes mild) did...

I too like dry beers so I think you are rigt in that the Ringwood would suit my tastes.

Cheers!

Guy

[Manx Guy]

Bah !

Just checked my stocks and dont have any progress for the Ringwood porter! Damn it..

Is there a suitable replacement or will I have to drop Rob at Maltmiller a message? I have a few other ale hops in stock (Northdown, Challenger, Fuggles, Golding, Cascade etc.)

Oh well... Might order some yeast from him too...



Guy

[dave-o]

Beersmith says:

Substitutes: Fuggles

[boingy]

It's not a particularly hop-centric beer so you could probably sub just about anything within reason. From your list I'd probably use Northdown, obviously adjusting for the AA%. I'd save the Goldings and Fuggles for a classic English bitter.

[Manx Guy]

Hi Boingy!

Thanks thats what I thought... using an aroma hops like goldings seemed a bit OTT but I'm not familiar with Progress so wasnt sure...
Even better the Northdown I have is the shortest dated hop I have
Thats that sorted then!


Cheers!

Guy

[chivelegs]

Apologies for tardy reply, but it's done alright. Had my first taste this week and it's pretty damn fine. Not unlike Pitfield Stout only with much more 'oomph'

I'm saving the Raspberry version for Christmas though.

Bump!

Chivelegs - did you make a Winter Porter in the end? Or is it soemhting you plan to do but haven't got round to?