Imperial Amarillo Wheat type IPA thing!

[WishboneBrewery]

Seeing as I have a rather large bag of Amarillo hops, this is loosely based around the 1868 IPA by Ansinck from the Durden Park book with a little boost to the ABV from some sugar.

Any thoughts?

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Imperial Amarillo Wheat

Fermentable	Colour	lb: oz	Grams	Ratio
Wheat Malt	3.5 EBC	7 lbs. 5.0 oz	3320 grams	48.5%
Munich Malt	20 EBC	7 lbs. 5.0 oz	3320 grams	48.5%
Sugar, Household White	0 EBC	0 lbs. 7.0 oz	200 grams	2.9%

Hop Variety	Type	Alpha	Time	lb: oz	grams	Ratio
Amarillo	Whole	9.5 %	60 mins	0 lbs. 14.0 oz	400 grams	85.1%
Amarillo	Whole	9.5 %	0 mins	0 lbs. 2.5 oz	70 grams	14.9% (DRY HOP)

Final Volume:	23	Litres
Original Gravity:	1.068	
Final Gravity:	1.014	
Alcohol Content:	7.1%	ABV
Total Liquor:	36.9	Litres
Mash Liquor:	16.6	Litres
Mash Efficiency:	75	%
Bitterness:	324	EBU
Colour:	25	EBC

[mattmacleod]

Not familiar with the Durden Park recipes but looking at that I would sub out some of the munich for some of the sugar - I think what you have might be a little cloying.

Also 400 grams of hops in a 23 litre batch? Surely that's not right.

[Piscator]

Alcohol Content: 7.1% ABV
Bitterness: 324 EBU

Now that's a serious beer

Totally mad, but serious

[WishboneBrewery]

Matt, an original 1868 India Pale Ale would have been hopped with over 400g /23L with the 70g just as dry hops, though the hops would have been lower Alpha and English rather than fairly high and American.
I've done an all Munich which was 5.4% not cloying at all as it was very bitter too
I might Just drop the sugar and leave it at 6.6%.

[leedsbrew]

Matt, an original 1868 India Pale Ale would have been hopped with over 400g /23L with the 70g just as dry hops, though the hops would have been lower Alpha and English rather than fairly high and American.
I've done an all Munich which was 5.4% not cloying at all as it was very bitter too
I might Just drop the sugar and leave it at 6.6%.

If it's half as good as your Munich 5000 mate it'll be a blinder!

[WishboneBrewery]

This, if I brew it, will be one to leave well alone for 6 months to a year

[196osh]

If I were you. I would switch those additions around.

[WishboneBrewery]

70g bittering and 400g Dry Hopping?

[196osh]

I would do.

100g 60mins
150g 15 mins
150g Flame Out
70g dry hop

The IBUs would still be well over 100 close to 150, which is the taste threshold and the hop flavour and aroma will be on a totally different level (insanly insanly better) than the one with all the hops at the start.

[WishboneBrewery]

I suppose so, i'll use the first gold for a more strict imperial.

I would do.

100g 60mins
150g 15 mins
150g Flame Out
70g dry hop

The IBUs would still be well over 100 close to 150, which is the taste threshold and the hop flavour and aroma will be on a totally different level (insanly insanly better) than the one with all the hops at the start.

[WishboneBrewery]

I've actually got 530g of Amarillo so it would be silly not to use them all
Added 5% Lager malt as I don't think the Munich malt will be that efficient and 5% caramalt for 'Balance'

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Imperial Amarillo Wheat

Fermentable	Colour	lb: oz	Grams	Ratio
Wheat Malt	3.5 EBC	6 lbs. 10.0 oz	3010 grams	45%
Munich Malt	20 EBC	6 lbs. 10.0 oz	3010 grams	45%
Lager Malt	2.5 EBC	0 lbs. 11.7 oz	330 grams	5%
Caramalt	20 EBC	0 lbs. 11.7 oz	330 grams	5%

Hop Variety	Type	Alpha	Time	lb: oz	grams	Ratio
Amarillo	Whole	9.4 %	75 mins	0 lbs. 8.8 oz	250 grams	47.2%
Amarillo	Whole	9.4 %	15 mins	0 lbs. 3.9 oz	110 grams	20.8%
Amarillo	Whole	9.4 %	0 mins	0 lbs. 3.5 oz	100 grams	18.9%
Amarillo	Whole	9.4 %	0 mins	0 lbs. 2.5 oz	70 grams	13.2% (DRY HOPS)

Final Volume:	23	Litres
Original Gravity:	1.065	
Final Gravity:	1.015	
Alcohol Content:	6.6%	ABV
Total Liquor:	37	Litres
Mash Liquor:	16.7	Litres
Mash Efficiency:	75	%
Bitterness:	261	EBU
Colour:	26	EBC

I think with the Hopping more like 196osh's comment this beer might be drinking sooner

[196osh]

That beer will be just superb. I propose a swap if you manage to brew it. Looks superb. Mysty will be loving that Amarillo.

[WishboneBrewery]

That beer will be just superb. I propose a swap if you manage to brew it. Looks superb. Mysty will be loving that Amarillo.

That sounds like a challenge! 90min Mash @ 65-66c, maybe 75min boil rather than my usual 60min, Yeast will be US-05