Recipe for Sunday? Rauch or Nelson?

[WishboneBrewery]

Either something with 1kg of Rauchmalt or something with a mix of Hersbrucker & Nelson Sauvin? Hmmm!

The Smokey thing:

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Kartoffel-Rauch
Fermentable    Colour    lb: oz    Grams    Ratio
Lager Malt    2.5 EBC    4 lbs. 14.9 oz    2240 grams    52.8%
Rauch Malt, Smoked    5 EBC    2 lbs. 3.3 oz    1000 grams    23.6%
Munich Malt    20 EBC    1 lbs. 12.2 oz    800 grams    18.9%
Wheat Malt    3.5 EBC    0 lbs. 7.0 oz    200 grams    4.7%

Hop Variety    Type    Alpha    Time    lb: oz    grams    Ratio
Northern Brewer    Whole    8.2 %    60 mins    0 lbs. 0.9 oz    26 grams    50%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker    Whole    2.9 %    10 mins    0 lbs. 0.4 oz    13 grams    25%
Hallertauer Mittlefruh    Whole    4.1 %    10 mins    0 lbs. 0.4 oz    13 grams    25%

Final Volume:    23    Litres
Original Gravity:    1.047    
Final Gravity:    1.011    
Alcohol Content:    4.6%    ABV
Total Liquor:    32.5    Litres
Mash Liquor:    10.6    Litres
Mash Efficiency:    85    %
Bitterness:    25    EBU
Colour:    10    EBC

Or the Deutsche-Kiwi?

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Nelson Brucker
Fermentable    Colour    lb: oz    Grams    Ratio
Pale Malt    5 EBC    6 lbs. 0.6 oz    2740 grams    75%
Crystal Rye Malt    150 EBC    0 lbs. 12.8 oz    365 grams    10%
Munich Malt    20 EBC    0 lbs. 12.8 oz    365 grams    10%
Torrefied Wheat    4 EBC    0 lbs. 6.4 oz    180 grams    5%

Hop Variety    Type    Alpha    Time    lb: oz    grams    Ratio
Perle    Whole    8.25 %    60 mins    0 lbs. 1.1 oz    30 grams    23.1%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker    Whole    2.9 %    15 mins    0 lbs. 1.4 oz    40 grams    30.8%
Nelson Sauvin    Whole    11.3 %    15 mins    0 lbs. 0.7 oz    20 grams    15.4%
Nelson Sauvin    Whole    11.3 %    0 mins    0 lbs. 0.4 oz    10 grams    7.7%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker    Whole    2.9 %    0 mins    0 lbs. 1.1 oz    30 grams    23.1%

Final Volume:    23    Litres
Original Gravity:    1.040    
Final Gravity:    1.010    
Alcohol Content:    3.9%    ABV
Total Liquor:    32    Litres
Mash Liquor:    9.1    Litres
Mash Efficiency:    85    %
Bitterness:    45.8720849721466    EBU
Colour:    28    EBC

Might not need the Perle hops to bitter with just do a mix of Herbrucker & NS

[pas8280]

Just from a selfish point of view i would recommend the Nelson Sauvin brew, only because i have enough NS left to use your recipe if it turns out a cracker and i must say thats the way it looks

[WishboneBrewery]

Hmm do you think 45 EBU is too bitter for a 3.9%, probably not really.
I am swaying toward the NS brew just because I think I need to put more thought into the Rauchmalt brew.

[WishboneBrewery]

I went for the Nelson...

Anyone have any thoughts on the Rauchmalt recipe, I feel I should put a bit more thought into it...

[Invalid Stout]

I went for the Nelson...

Anyone have any thoughts on the Rauchmalt recipe, I feel I should put a bit more thought into it...

I find the Rauchmalt in the homebrew trade here isn't really all that smoky. You can easily put as much of it in as you want without it being too smoky. 100% and it still won't approach the smokiness of Schlenkerla.

[WishboneBrewery]

Ideally I want some peated malt for a Smokey Stout, but after chewing on a bit of Rauchmalt I can see it is pretty mellow stuff and would work in a fairly light coloured beer.