whats your best guinness recipe?

[alfie09]

looking at making 40litres of guinness made the one from graham wheelers book but something was quite a miss for me. what was your best recipe that was close to the real thing. i have been drinking some in my local and its fooooking lovely. what hops do they use at the present in the brewery? taste like challenger maybe northdown to me?

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Most go for 70-20-10 using target to 45 IBU's

BB

[aceuass]

Most go for 70-20-10 using target to 45 IBU's

BB

cant go wrong with that
Cheers
Paul

[alfie09]

whats that 70-20-10?

is that 70% pale malt 20% roasted barley 10% flaked barley?

[dave-o]

No, 70 pale, 20 flaked, 10 roast.

[BarnsleyBrewer]

70 pale, 20 flaked, 10 roast.

That's the one...

BB

[alfie09]

what yeast s04, nottingham or liquid wlp004?

[adeybambam]

us05 works well for me

[dave-o]

TBH it's not going to make a massive difference in a stout IMO. I wouldn't waste an expensive liquid yeast on it - just chuck in some S04 or Notts.

[alfie09]

how about this as a recipe for 40 litres?

Pale Malt 5 EBC 15 lbs. 11.9 oz 7140 grams 70%
Roasted Barley 1350 EBC 2 lbs. 4.0 oz 1020 grams 10%
Flaked Barley 0 EBC 4 lbs. 8.1 oz 2040 grams 20%


Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Target Whole 12.9 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 3.0 oz 87 grams 100%


Final Volume: 40 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.055
Final Gravity: 1.017
Alcohol Content: 4.9% ABV
Total Liquor: 57.2 Litres
Mash Liquor: 25.5 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 45.4320206678874 EBU
Colour: 265 EBC

[dave-o]

I think Beersmith over-estimates tre conversion of the flaked barley, so the OG will probably be a little lower than that, but not by a great deal.

Looks about right - basically it'll be like guinness, but better, of course!

[alfie09]

do you actually think guinness use target hops? i dont and it certainly doesnt taste that way. and guess what they wouldn't tell me either i did email them they said if i knew that i woud probally give that information out and people will try and make it them selves!

[Spud395]

I've used Target with this recipe or a very close one in the past and would agree with dave-o
Like guinness only better, with just a bittering hop adittion and all the roast in there hop variety isnt that important. I also chucked in a little Target at 10 mins, which I thought added a nice twist

[brewnaboinne]

In the 1990 camra guide graham w. used northdown and challenger for his genius stout. I've always used just northdown and it came out well.
cheers
Liam

[nobby]

do you actually think guinness use target hops? i dont and it certainly doesnt taste that way. and guess what they wouldn't tell me either i did email them they said if i knew that i woud probally give that information out and people will try and make it them selves!

You must have a very good palette to tell the diffrence in Hops in a Guinness. I have always used Northernbrewer but some recommend a mixture of NB and Target. As for Yeast why not use Nottingham.