WLP029 Märzen-Oktoberfest + some pics

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WLP029 Märzen-Oktoberfest + some pics

Post by leedsbrew » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:41 pm

I'm brewing up an Oktoberfest/Märzen. Half a batch for me and half for a mate.

going to be using the WLP029 kolsch yeast to get as close to lager as posible without temp control (as my fridge went to the scrap yard in the sky! :cry: )

the recipe I've come up with so far is

56% Pilsner Malt
40% German Munich I Malt
2% Caramunich II
1% Melanoidin Malt
1% Biscuit malt

Tettnang to 21IBU 90 mins (85g)
Tettnang to 3.8 IBU 5 mins (80g)


I'm hopping that once it's fermented as short stint in the garage to cold condition will get it ready to force carb and then bottle! :D


Any one wish to comment/correct me on this one?

Cheers
Last edited by leedsbrew on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:51 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: Quick Märzen

Post by WishboneBrewery » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:34 am

I know nothing personally, but the style says this:
http://hopville.com/beer-style/oktoberf ... fo/brewing

I tell ya, there is never enough time to brew the beers I want to brew! I also have Kolsch yeast in the fridge, needs splitting and doing at least 3 brews two Kolsch-esque beers and one IPA. Two more brews for the http://www.gbhomebrew.co.uk comp first.

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Re: Quick Märzen

Post by leedsbrew » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:33 am

Cheers for the link ade.

I reckon my recipe will produce a fairly accurate interpretation. The Munich to provide the lovely maleness, melanoidin to emulate a decoction mash, caramunich for a touch of sweetness and the biscuit for a slight touch of toastyness!

I know we've talked avout the kolsch yeast before! It's a cracker!

leedsbrew

Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:54 pm

Well I'm brewing this on Sunday. Have a decent sized starter on the go. Now just need the weather to hold! Going to be brewing 10 gallons to split with a mate for his Bday.

I'm going to be bottle conditioning mine, where as his will be force carb'd and then bottled as it is going on a camping trip.

the onld difference in recipe is that we will be using Munich II (darker) as I ordered the wrong one from Rob! :oops: :oops:

Brewday thread to follow

leedsbrew

Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:57 pm

hmmm after doing a little more reading I'm wondering wether to move the late addition back to 15 mins? any thoughts chaps?

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Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:52 am

After advice from Aleman Im now looking at:

54% Pilsner Malt
40% German Munich I Malt
6% Caramunich II


Tettnang to 20IBU 90 mins (95g)
Tettnang to 5.1 IBU 5 mins (49g)

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Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by beernsurfing » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:33 am

I think your grain bill is ok. The yeast is my main concern, koelsh fermented warmish might not work too well with all those malty yummy grains. I think US05 would probably work better. It would be cleaner, and let the malt shine through. And mash lowish, 63c ish

leedsbrew

Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:58 am

I find wlp029 to be one of the cleanest, most lagery yeast there is. The last 2 Kölsch beers I made had a definite 'Germanness' that I really enjoyed. The ambient temp in my dinning room at the moment is 17-18oC which should be perfect for the yeast.


Quote from WhiteLabs website
The slight sulfur produced during fermentation will disappear with age and leave a super clean, lager like ale.
which is what I am aiming for.

Manx Guy

Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by Manx Guy » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:11 pm

Hi,

Looks good, I added my late addition at 15 and to my tastes I wish I'd gone a littler bigger and/or later with the late addition.

What mash temp are you planning on using? I went with 65C when using the Wyeast 2206 Bavarian yeast and got 81% apparent atenuation!

To be honest I think using a kolsh yeast for a beer like this is a great idea! One I might use myself!

I think Kolsch is similarly highly attenuating so I wouldnt go lower than 64 or it might be too dry for the style...
just my opinion

Good luck Neil, I'm sure it will be a cracker!

Cheers!
Guy

leedsbrew

Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:23 pm

Thanks Guy.

I was planning on mashing in at 64oC. Looking back through BeerAlchemy I seem to get 74-76% attenuation from this yeast. The last 2 Kolsch beers I did were mashed at 64 so that looks like a winner!

Even if it does go a bit mental and up into the 80's I think the caramunich will keep some sweetness in it.

There will be a brew day thread so keep your eyes peeled

LB

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Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by Manx Guy » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:51 pm

Hi LB

Looks like a sound plan to me!

:)
Look forward to reading the brewday post :)

Will you be going to the Northern craft brewers meet in Lancaster at the end of October?

:)
Guy

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Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:57 pm

I will be matey! and will be bringing this and a few others (icluding a couple of Wits) along! Are you making the trip over?

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Re: WLp029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by WishboneBrewery » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:55 pm

Just make sure you save me a bottle, we'll have a car full of beer to swap so long as you like 3 different weizens, a Porter and Nelson Brucker II ;) We're making a w/end of it and staying over.

leedsbrew

Re: WLP029 Märzen-Oktoberfest

Post by leedsbrew » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:03 am

Well all went to plan (except breaking a hydrometer!). Finished with 44L at the predicted OG of 1.055

the LWP029 was fermenting away happily this AM 12 hours after pitching, with a good 2 inch of krausen.

had a few mates round so didn't get chance to take many good pics, so here are a few that I took on the iPhone and tweeted!

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Grain bed temp. Ended up hitting the mash temp bang on

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doughing in with a paint mixer! with the drill set on high it was quite vigourous! :D

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3 vessel system in it's temporary home (until the new brew shed is purchased! :D)

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recirculating chiller to sanitise

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Very clear going into the FV @22oC

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Re: WLP029 Märzen-Oktoberfest + some pics

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:16 pm

I should get my own Mesh Hop-Stopper sorted and get my Plate chiller in use!

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