Timothy Taylor Landlord recipe question re bitterness

inthedark · Post by **inthedark** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:49 pm

I'm looking at the Wheeler recipe shown here for my next brew, but I've just plugged the numbers into BeerTools Pro and the bitterness seems enormous - it's coming out at 49.22.

I've not got the hang of estimating how bitter some beers are yet - does this seem excessive or about right? I've got styrian goldings at 6%, fuggles and goldings at 4.8%.

bitter_dave · Post by **bitter_dave** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:29 pm

49 IBUs is waaaaaayyy to high. The recipe is designed to by around 35 IBUs if I recall rightly.

inthedark · Post by **inthedark** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:49 pm

OK, so I've plugged the actual percentages in from the hops sold at H&G but its still up at 40 - should I reduce the amounts?

Other people have said that the recipe is tried and tested - were they using lower acid hops then?

Post by **Jim** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:27 pm

Do you know how Beertools Pro is working out the utilisation?

parkerwitton · Post by **parkerwitton** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:50 pm

Pale Malt 4.7 kg
Goldings 28gm start of boil
Fuggles 50gm start of boil
Goldings 15 gm last 15 mins
Irish Moss (1tsp) last 15 mins
Bitterness 30 EBU

inthedark · Post by **inthedark** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:54 pm

Jim wrote:Do you know how Beertools Pro is working out the utilisation?

I'm not sure how I would find that out

Post by **Jim** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:34 pm

inthedark wrote:
Jim wrote:Do you know how Beertools Pro is working out the utilisation?
I'm not sure how I would find that out

Me neither - I'm not familiar with the software. You are just including the hops that are in for the full 90 minutes, aren't you?

slurp the apprentice · Post by **slurp the apprentice** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:38 pm

whats the A/Acid percentage on that recipe parkerwitton?

Wez · Post by **Wez** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:58 pm

Hi ITD I think i might be to blame for all of the confusion here. I've downloaded Beersmith and been playing around with the calcs using Styrian Goldings and Oregon Fuggles that I've picked up from my local brewery and will come up with a recipie at around 35EBU's from that. When are you brewing, i'll try to post what i'm doing before then but even so my AA values will differ from your's the Styrians i got are only 2% which is waaaay low the Oregon Fuggles are 4.9.

inthedark · Post by **inthedark** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:34 am

Jim wrote:Me neither - I'm not familiar with the software. You are just including the hops that are in for the full 90 minutes, aren't you?

You put in all the hops but specify how long they're in the boil for.

parkerwitton · Post by **parkerwitton** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:25 am

Sorry Slurp, could not tell you....I have had this recipe for at leat 10 years, but it is an original from Graham Wheeler.

mysterio · Post by **mysterio** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:58 am

I would just brew it as the recipe states it then tweak it from there if it doesn't turn out right. If I were brewing a TTL clone again I would be targetting above 35 IBUs on my system anyway.

Edit: Actually ignore that... i'm looking at my notes and 35 seems about right

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Timothy Taylor Landlord recipe question re bitterness

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