Into the unknown

[far9410]

Hi All, I would like some advice regarding the use of these hops; Chinook, simcoe, columbus. I want to create a hoppy apa. and thought add some of each throughout stages of the boil. I have pale malt, crystal, caramalt, wheat malt ( plus others too dark to mention) cheers

[soupdragon]

I've got this conditioning in kegs now. Had a sly sample as I was kegging and I must say it's showing a lot of promise. It's the first time I've used that many hops but I'm glad I did. If you've not got any Cascade ( why not? ) then you could get away with Columbus

Cheers Tom

[far9410]

Yes I have got some cascade (why wouldnt I?), but wanted to try some i aint used before, I must say that chincade looks tasty tho!

[soupdragon]

I know I mentioned Jaipur in that thread but thinking on Sierra Nevada Pale Ale might be closer. I've only ever had it the once but it was a tasty brew. Whatever it tastes like, it tasted familiar when I had that sample out of the fermenter
Have you settled on a recipe for yours yet?

Cheers Tom

[far9410]

What about his then?

what?
Date:
Gyle Number:
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Caramalt 30 EBC 0 lbs. 5.3 oz 150 grams 2.7%
Pale Malt 5 EBC 11 lbs. 7.4 oz 5200 grams 92%
Wheat Malt 3.5 EBC 0 lbs. 10.5 oz 300 grams 5.3%

Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Chinook Whole 11.5 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
Chinook Whole 11.5 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
Chinook Whole 11.5 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 15 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 15 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 15 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
simcoe Whole 14.2 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
simcoe Whole 14.2 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%
simcoe Whole 14.2 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 11.1%

Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.055
Final Gravity: 1.013
Alcohol Content: 5.5% ABV
Total Liquor: 34 Litres
Mash Liquor: 14.1 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 53.204050841821 EBU
Colour: 10 EBC

The point is I dont Know the best way to use these hops to get most out of em

[soupdragon]

I'd drop the 60 min Columbus and up the late hops a bit.
Say an extra 10g of each at the 10 min and another 10 as your 0 min addition
Should still come out at 53 ebu but you'll get a bigger flavour hit from the hops

Cheers Tom

[far9410]

Columbus not suitable for bittering then?

[soupdragon]

They're fine, it's just that if you up the late additions with the other hops and kept the Columbus you'd end up closer to 70 ebu. My personal preference is for a big wadge of flavour from my hops, ballanced with the right amount of bittering.
You could go with your original recipe and it'll be fine but if I was doing it, I'd add more late hops for flavour and lower the copper hops to ballance to extra bittering I'd get from the late ones. Just my personal taste, might not be yours though.....

Cheers Tom