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How about this for an IPA?

Post by Skittlebrau » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Thinking about brewing this in a few weeks' time...

As always, JBKers, I'd like to know if this is a disastrous idea. I'm guessing not, unless there's something about the Apollo hop that I don't know...

San La Muerte
American IPA

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 25.0
Total Grain (kg): 5.992
Total Hops (g): 100.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.057 (°P): 14.0
Final Gravity (FG): 1.014 (°P): 3.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.60 %
Colour (SRM): 3.2 (EBC): 6.3
Bitterness (IBU): 57.2 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 60

Grain Bill
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5.564 kg Low Colour Maris Otter Malt (92.86%)
0.428 kg Wheat Malt (7.14%)

Hop Bill
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10.0 g Apollo Leaf (19.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
15.0 g Apollo Leaf (19.8% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (0.6 g/L)
26.0 g Apollo Leaf (19.8% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
49.0 g Apollo Leaf (19.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Aroma) (2 g/L)

Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 65°C for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 18°C with Ale yeast


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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by far9410 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:46 pm

Itll be great, see my post "Saturn V", an all appollo pale. ( one of my favourites so far)
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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Capn Ahab » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:38 pm

Got anything to dry-hop it with?

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Skittlebrau » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:18 pm

Yeah but I don't really want to.

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:15 pm

Don't dry hop if its your first experience of a hop, better to leave that for a future brew experiment. Let us know how it turned out :)

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Capn Ahab » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:55 pm

Skittlebrau wrote:Yeah but I don't really want to.
Increase the flameout hop by at least half as much again and make sure you chill it fast to lock in aroma then. Imo an IPA should always be dry-hopped, otherwise it's not really an IPA. If hops ending up in the final product is the issue, get a nylon bag and weigh it down with any heavy inert material you can find - eg marbles or stainless steel cutlery.
pdtnc wrote:Don't dry hop if its your first experience of a hop, better to leave that for a future brew experiment.
Why? If it's single hop, dry-hopping isn't going to mask the hop aroma from flameout hops, it will increase the hop aroma. If you're aiming for a US IPA, I hear they're a wee bit hoppy, so let rip man.

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:02 pm

Why, because you get slightly different flavours & aromas from Dry hopping... so to full appreciate a Single hopped beer you should do one with just boil hops and another that is dry hopped.
Easy to resolve, split the wort between two fermenters and dry hop one of them... though if you're going dry hop, do it at 5-6g per litre for full effect ;) You'll thank me for it ;)

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Skittlebrau » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:16 pm

I don't have enough hops for it really. I consider myself as being in a sort of "new brewer" mode where I play with different ingredients to learn what I like. I'm learning about different kinds of grain bills and the tastes of different hop varieties, and I don't really want to tweak my process much at the moment.

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by WishboneBrewery » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:59 am

One thing... your Aroma Hop timings look odd (Boil & Aroma @ 60mins?) is that after 60mins boil or at the start of the 60mins boil?

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by far9410 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:24 am

I think he means steep for 60 mins after boil, which is fair enough. It'll be good, with or without dry hopping! :D
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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Capn Ahab » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:10 am

far9410 wrote:I think he means steep for 60 mins after boil, which is fair enough. It'll be good, with or without dry hopping! :D
That's really daft. Steeping at high temps means a) all the volatile aroma oils are likely to evaporate off, and b) you may well isomerise more alpha acids. Furthermore all your late hop additions will lose more flavour and potentially gain more bitterness, so everything needs to be recalculated.

If you want aroma, chuck in hops at flameout and chill as quickly as possible.

I know it may be heresy to some on this here forum, but the myth of the 80 degree steep really needs to be put to bed.

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Skittlebrau » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:56 am

Ah... this is interesting. Just to be clear - the way Brewmate lays things out makes it a bit confusing but yes, the intention is to chill to 80 C, then steep for an hour. Let's have a debate about the 80 C steep then! I don't really have a position on this, I've just been doing as advised. My beers have always come out lovely so far, but I'm prepared to be convinced that they'd be even better if I chucked the hops in at boiling and then started chilling immediately... Shall I start a new thread?

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Capn Ahab » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:06 am

Skittlebrau wrote:Ah... this is interesting. Just to be clear - the way Brewmate lays things out makes it a bit confusing but yes, the intention is to chill to 80 C, then steep for an hour. Let's have a debate about the 80 C steep then! I don't really have a position on this, I've just been doing as advised. My beers have always come out lovely so far, but I'm prepared to be convinced that they'd be even better if I chucked the hops in at boiling and then started chilling immediately... Shall I start a new thread?
Might be a good idea - this one could go way off topic....

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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by Skittlebrau » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:31 am


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Re: How about this for an IPA?

Post by oz11 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:05 am

Whilst on the subject of steeping I'll put this in for discussion:

EDIT: Moved to the the new thread which I didn't see! #-o

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