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No hops added during the boil beer

Post by smdjoachim » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:00 am

Tomorrows beer is a bit of an experiment.
All the hops are added before or after the boil.
Should be a light refreshing drink that will be ready to drink in 3 weeks.

3.000 kg Maris Otter Malt (78.95%)
0.200 kg Candi Sugar, Clear (5.26%)
0.200 kg Crystal 60 (5.26%)
0.200 kg Munich (5.26%)
0.200 kg Wheat Malt (5.26%)


30.0 g Amarillo @ 60 Minutes First Wort
50.0 g Amarillo @ 30 Minutes Steep @80 C
50.0 g Citra @ 30 Minutes steep @80 C
20.0 g Amarillo @ 7 Days Dry Hop
50.0 g Citra @ 7 Days Dry Hop

WLP041 - Pacific Ale

lancsSteve

Re: No hops added during the boil beer

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:16 pm

Should be nice - what are the gravities and IBUs for the FWH addition?

Made a fair few like this now - tend to find adding FWH is easier (chuck em in kettle before fill) and all the stats say same IBUs and the anecdotal evidence is more flavour so what's not to like?

Wolfy

Re: No hops added during the boil beer

Post by Wolfy » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:16 pm

The FWH addition means that while it's technically be true that "No hops added during the boil beer", since the FWH are in the kettle for the full duration of the boil, it's really not that much different from adding them at the start of the boil and hence nothing really that exciting.

Much more interesting would have been if there were no hops added tot he kettle at all - which is what I presumed the topic was implying -this may have been possible by adding them to the mash, by using a no-chill only addition (assuming one no chilled).

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Re: No hops added during the boil beer

Post by seymour » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:44 pm

Yeah, like Wolfy, I'm confused. By FWH, do you mean the same as "mash hopping" wherein you stir them into the mash tun, which departs some bitterness and alters the mash chemistry, but they are left behind with the spent grains when you drain the wort? If so, it would be interesting to then skip any additional hops in the boil kettle. I'd love to taste that beer.

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Re: No hops added during the boil beer

Post by smdjoachim » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:03 pm

lancsSteve wrote:Should be nice - what are the gravities and IBUs for the FWH addition?

Made a fair few like this now - tend to find adding FWH is easier (chuck em in kettle before fill) and all the stats say same IBUs and the anecdotal evidence is more flavour so what's not to like?

1041 and 31 IBU's.A light easy drinker I hope.

Wolfy/Seymour The statement "no hops added during the boil beer"is actually correct.Hops were there before the boil started and more were added when the boil had finished
Seymore FWH and mash hopping are not the same thing.

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Re: No hops added during the boil beer

Post by seymour » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:42 pm

smdjoachim wrote:Seymore FWH and mash hopping are not the same thing.
Yeah, I get that. I just think "No hops added during the boil beer" though not incorrect as you point out, was misleading. If there are hops in a boil kettle and then it's boiled for 60 minutes, that's a 60 minute hop addition. The only difference I can think of is the extra time it takes to get the wort up to a boil (so it would really be a 75 minute addition or so.) You're doing bittering hops only, no flavor or aroma additions in the boil. Aroma comes entirely from dry hops. I get it now, but haven't there always been countless English ale recipes that only utilitize bittering hops?

But I mean no offense. Brew and experiment as you wish, don't mind me.

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