Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Try some of these great recipes out, or share your favourite brew with other forumees!
User avatar
seymour
It's definitely Lock In Time
Posts: 6390
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:51 pm
Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
Contact:

Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by seymour » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:30 pm

This is an almost embarrassingly nerdy question, but I know C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien (along with the other "Inklings") frequented pubs to read, discuss their writings, and down several pints. I wonder what their favorite beers were?

After some research, I've learned that during their Oxford years (≈1930-1950) they mainly gathered in the corner of The Eagle and Child, aka "Bird and Baby" pub, which at the time was a Morrells account, when the flagship beer was Varsity Ale.

Elsewhere, in a letter from Douglas Gresham who knew Lewis well, he wrote "Lewis' favorite beer was a good draft bitter preferably off the wood if well kept. Disliked bottled beer, loathed canned beer." So (at a Morrells house at least) that eliminates beers like Bass and Guinness, right?

I was wondering if anyone has any additional information on Lewis' and/or Tolkien's drinking preferences. Best of all, any historically accurate recipes?

Thanks!

simco999

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by simco999 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Wow - nerd of the week award to you. =D> =D> =D>

User avatar
seymour
It's definitely Lock In Time
Posts: 6390
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:51 pm
Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
Contact:

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by seymour » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:09 pm

simco999 wrote:Wow - nerd of the week award to you.
I know, I already admitted that twice! You only get to insult me if you have new information to share :)

simco999

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by simco999 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:35 pm

seymour wrote:
simco999 wrote:Wow - nerd of the week award to you.
I know, I already admitted that twice! You only get to insult me if you have new information to share :)
No insult intended.

User avatar
Cully
Even further under the Table
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 am
Location: with the powers of light and dark... I.e. Newcastle

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by Cully » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:58 pm

It's questions like this that make Jims a great place to visit. As a lifelong Tolkien and Lewis fan, I'd be interested to know this too.
Nothing's forgotten, nothings EVER forgotten...

simco999

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by simco999 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:03 pm

Cully wrote:It's questions like this that make Jims a great place to visit. As a lifelong Tolkien and Lewis fan, I'd be interested to know this too.
Ditto.

jimp2003

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by jimp2003 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:17 pm

If you can find out what Morrells were brewing at the time there is a list of their beers HERE with an estimate of the recipe...

Morrells were sold to Marstons in the 1990s..

User avatar
TC2642
Even further under the Table
Posts: 2161
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:11 pm
Location: Somewhere between cabbaged and heavily cabbaged

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by TC2642 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:36 pm

I'd be more interested in what people could come up with for a recipe for a beer that would be drunk by hobbits!
Fermenting -!
Maturing - Lenin's Revenge RIS
Drinking - !
Next brew - PA
Brew after next brew - IPA

User avatar
Cully
Even further under the Table
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 am
Location: with the powers of light and dark... I.e. Newcastle

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by Cully » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:32 pm

Small Beer?
Nothing's forgotten, nothings EVER forgotten...

Eadweard
Lost in an Alcoholic Haze
Posts: 683
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:17 am
Location: Woking

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by Eadweard » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:03 pm

I'm pretty sure Sharp's use Morrells yeast.

User avatar
TC2642
Even further under the Table
Posts: 2161
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:11 pm
Location: Somewhere between cabbaged and heavily cabbaged

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by TC2642 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:27 pm

Cully wrote:Small Beer?
:D
Fermenting -!
Maturing - Lenin's Revenge RIS
Drinking - !
Next brew - PA
Brew after next brew - IPA

Rookie
Falling off the Barstool
Posts: 3662
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:30 pm
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by Rookie » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:45 pm

seymour wrote:This is an almost embarrassingly nerdy question, but I know C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien (along with the other "Inklings") frequented pubs to read, discuss their writings, and down several pints. I wonder what their favorite beers were?
Nothing wrong with a question like that. If you pin it down for sure let us know.
Anyone out there know what the last card in Wild Bill's hand was when he was killed?
I'm just here for the beer.

User avatar
seymour
It's definitely Lock In Time
Posts: 6390
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:51 pm
Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
Contact:

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by seymour » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:20 am

Rookie wrote:Anyone out there know what the last card in Wild Bill's hand was when he was killed?
Dead Man's Hand, of course: aces and eights, all black. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_hand :)
Great scene in the HBO show Deadwood.

Rookie
Falling off the Barstool
Posts: 3662
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:30 pm
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by Rookie » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:49 am

seymour wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone out there know what the last card in Wild Bill's hand was when he was killed?
Dead Man's Hand, of course: aces and eights, all black. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_hand :)
Great scene in the HBO show Deadwood.
But what was the last card? There is some difference of opinion.
I'm just here for the beer.

User avatar
seymour
It's definitely Lock In Time
Posts: 6390
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:51 pm
Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
Contact:

Re: Nerdy beer question about C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien

Post by seymour » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:43 am

Rookie wrote:But what was the last card? There is some difference of opinion.
That's true, I don't think anyone really knows the fifth card for sure. They were playing Five Card Draw, and some say he had turned in the fifth card and was shot before receiving its replacement. Others say he had a full house, but I don't know what that's based on.

Post Reply