St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

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St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

Post by The Dribbler » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:59 pm

Finally found a beer the wife actually likes

Does anybody have a AG clone recipe for this? Not bothered about using organic tho

Thanks

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Re: St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

Post by Uncle Joshua » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:16 pm

A clone of St Peter's best would be good too.

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Re: St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

Post by seymour » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:55 pm

St Peters Organic Ale is one of my favorites, too. Just basically delicious. Here's what we know:
  • The brewer's description states "light malted barley from Scotland" (I've read elsewhere the grainbill is 100% organic Maris Otter.)

    I recieved an email from the brewery stating organic First Gold hops, a dwarf cultivar derived from Goldings, with similar characteristics.

    They use a proprietary English ale yeast strain, but user De-Geert successfully recultured it from a bottle of St. Peters Organic Ale. In an email, the brewery confirmed to him it was not intentionally bottle-conditioned, but rather they had temporary filtration issues, so yes it is the primary strain. They also told him primary fermentation is 22-23°C.

    The brewery states the ABV = 4.5%
So, assemble a basic English Bitter recipe with Maris Otter pale malt, First Gold hops, and try contacting De-Geert for the yeast. Failing that, try contacting BrewLabs for St Peters' yeast. Failing that, I bet a Whitbread-B strain would be fine.

Here's another set of clues: It's possible St Peters Golden Ale is the same recipe, albeit not organic-certified, and perhaps just fermented colder. The brewery states the ABV = 4.7%, but other than that, they taste very similar to me. Lucky for you, Roger Protz summarized the following in the 3rd edition of his Real Ale Almanac:
  • OG: 1.044
    Maltbill: Halcyon pale malt, lager malt, torrified wheat
    Hops: Goldings
    Late hops: Goldings
Like I said, other than including some lager malt and wheat, it matches what I described above.

I hope this helps you out.
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Re: St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

Post by The Dribbler » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:43 am

Thanking you again Seymour,


I must say I'm suprised at the ingredients and method.

The Ale, tastes so clean and lager like.

I was half expecting german noble hops and a cool fermentation.


Do you have any idea of the rate of bittering? IBU's

I'm going to brew this in the next couple of days.

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Re: St Peters Organic Ale Recipe wanted.

Post by seymour » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:47 pm

The Dribbler wrote:...the Ale, tastes so clean and lager like...
I agree. Clean in the sense of no caramel, crystal, or roasted malts, no offensive adjuncts or fusel alcohols. But to me, it definitely has more fruity esters than lagers, which is a big part of why I like it.
The Dribbler wrote:...Do you have any idea of the rate of bittering? IBU's...
Not sure, but I'd put the IBU in the standard bitter range around 30? http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style08.php Then another late addition around 0-15 minutes remaining for aroma.

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