Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
I really like pale choc in mine, so nice. Mine are on the drier side, but i like them like that. I recently did one mashed at 70c, which finished at 1.016. I didn't find it too full bodied, and it was nice, but i didn't pick much difference between the usual ones that finish around 1.010. Might need to up the crystal, though, like i said they both seem to come out nice, so no real rush to change too much. I just got some brown malt that i will try in small amounts, just to see.
Such a good style.
I just bought a candy thermometer, after seeing a blog about invet sugar in brewing ( pretty sure its a UK blog ). Im going tio make some and try it in a mild, just to see if it makes a difference. Some people claim you cant taste a difference between invert and plain table sugar ( sucrose ), but some people claim there is a definate flavour contribution. Thermo was 8 bucks, so its worth a try!
Such a good style.
I just bought a candy thermometer, after seeing a blog about invet sugar in brewing ( pretty sure its a UK blog ). Im going tio make some and try it in a mild, just to see if it makes a difference. Some people claim you cant taste a difference between invert and plain table sugar ( sucrose ), but some people claim there is a definate flavour contribution. Thermo was 8 bucks, so its worth a try!
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Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
My most recent mild has just started its cold conditioning so I'm yet to learn what about it worked or didn't. The tastes I have had so far suggest it is likely to be really good. The main contributor to its character is some brown malt I used that was kilned over oak. I also like chocolate and have a combination of chocolate and special B in there with the crystal at 11.6%. I agree with Seymour about getting a little more mouth feel into a dark mild but I feel about this for all my dark beers, probably the visual appearance makes you expect it. I used some torry (5.6%), not sure yet whether it was enough so an aspect to look for in a couple of weeks time. Bitterness is low (15.4 IBU) which allows the malt to shine but I do wonder whether the recipe separates it from Porter enough to really call it a Mild.
I mashed a little low compared to others (65) and finished at 1.010, fermenting around 20c the whole way so it may drink a little thinner than I would like but the jury is still out, bump in a couple of weeks
I mashed a little low compared to others (65) and finished at 1.010, fermenting around 20c the whole way so it may drink a little thinner than I would like but the jury is still out, bump in a couple of weeks
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Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
seymour wrote: Higsons Mild/Best Mild
Mild Ale Malt: 71%
Wheat: 11%
Crystal Malt: 6%
Chocolate Malt: 3.5%
Sugar: 8.5%
i can help with this one seymour, origionally this was 3.2% but the recipe was also done at 3.5%. the one listed is a higsons mild recipe but not the most used one(ive got lots of notes from the brewhouse records that i had access to when we recreated the brand )
higsons mild
pale ale malt 74.6%
crystal malt 10%
wheat malt 10%
chocolate malt 5.4% get the grain bill to 1.031-2
invert sugar no. 2(near enough tate and lyles golden cane syrup 76% fermentable) enough to give 3 points gravity
mash @67.c for 60 mins
mix of bramling x 1st gold fuggles and goldings to give 22 ibus(all equal bittering amounts)@fwh with .5g styrian golding per imp gall @0
og 1.034-5 fg 1008 yeasties, higgies had a triploid stain thats a bitch to keep(brewlabs have it) but wlp0002 is good enough(so's notty!)
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Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
Great stuff, thank you so much Critch! Yeah, a triple yeast strain culture would be a nightmare to keep in balance! Very interesting. I didn't realize you revived the Higson's brand, cool. Was that through Liverpool Organic Brewery?critch wrote:i can help with this one seymour, origionally this was 3.2% but the recipe was also done at 3.5%. the one listed is a higsons mild recipe but not the most used one(ive got lots of notes from the brewhouse records that i had access to when we recreated the brand )seymour wrote: Higsons Mild/Best Mild
Mild Ale Malt: 71%
Wheat: 11%
Crystal Malt: 6%
Chocolate Malt: 3.5%
Sugar: 8.5%
higsons mild
pale ale malt 74.6%
crystal malt 10%
wheat malt 10%
chocolate malt 5.4% get the grain bill to 1.031-2
invert sugar no. 2(near enough tate and lyles golden cane syrup 76% fermentable) enough to give 3 points gravity
mash @67.c for 60 mins
mix of bramling x 1st gold fuggles and goldings to give 22 ibus(all equal bittering amounts)@fwh with .5g styrian golding per imp gall @0
og 1.034-5 fg 1008 yeasties, higgies had a triploid stain thats a bitch to keep(brewlabs have it) but wlp0002 is good enough(so's notty!)
Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
beernsurfing wrote:
I just bought a candy thermometer, after seeing a blog about invet sugar in brewing ( pretty sure its a UK blog ). Im going tio make some and try it in a mild, just to see if it makes a difference. Some people claim you cant taste a difference between invert and plain table sugar ( sucrose ), but some people claim there is a definate flavour contribution. Thermo was 8 bucks, so its worth a try!
Make sure you use unrefined sugar when making it. And there is a definite flavour contribution from the darker syrups
This is the best guide I've found, might be the same one
http://www.unholymess.com/blog/beer-bre ... ers-invert
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Thanks mate, I used raw sugar, and it ended up a bit darker than golden syrup. Recipe planned already, hope to brew in a few days. Im thinking of just using MO and the syrup in a bitter. Oh yeah, that is the blog I used.
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Similar to Timothy Taylor Ram Tam, which is simply their Landlord (100% Golden Promise) + caramel syrup.beernsurfing wrote:...Im thinking of just using MO and the syrup in a bitter...
Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
I ended up using 19% invert syrup (medium) in a mild. Its fermenting now, so im hoping i'll taste it. I mashed at 70c to compensate. Today I did some with demerara, so yummy!!
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BUMP.
I'm trying to research some old-timey Manchester milds. Anyone have recipes for any Websters or Wilsons dark milds?
Anyone else know some milds not listed here? Anyone?
I'm trying to research some old-timey Manchester milds. Anyone have recipes for any Websters or Wilsons dark milds?
Anyone else know some milds not listed here? Anyone?
Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
There are recipes for Oldham & Boddingtons milds on Ron Pattinson's blog from last year... http://barclayperkins.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... -mild.html. Always an interesting read.
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Got around to brewing this at last today,smelt lovely going into the FV's and ended up 4 points above target OG.The yeasts certainly seem to like it both FV's are up and away within 2 hours of pitching.FUBAR wrote:Will let you know shortly as that is my next planned brewday on the 28th,not a small batch will be 47ltrs ,the ammount of Crystal is why I have picked this recipe,fancied a chewy Malty meal in a glass.Going to split it between two FV's using Windsor in one and S04 in the other.boingy wrote:This:
made me goseymour wrote: Arkell's Mash Tun Mild
Pale Malt: 70%
Crystal Malt: 25%
Chocolate Malt: 5%
Has anyone brewed that one? My rule of thumb for Crystal is 10% max. I might have to try a small batch of that one, just to see...
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Re: Dark Mild Grainbills (reference)
Pilfered from a post Ron made on milds on beer advocate
December 22nd 1950 Whitbread Best Ale
Mild malt 4.50 lb 57.69%
Pale malt 2.50 lb 32.05%
Crystal malt 0.40 lb 5.13%
No.3 invert sugar 0.40 lb 5.13%
Caramel
Fuggles 60 min 1.00 oz
Goldings 30 min 1.00 oz
OG 1031
FG 1009
ABV 2.91
Apparent attenuation 70.97%
IBU 28
SRM 28
Mash at 145º F
Sparge at 165º F
Boil time 90 minutes
pitching temp 65º F
Yeast Wyeast 1098 British ale - dry
The caramel is enough to get the colour to 28 SRM.
December 22nd 1950 Whitbread Best Ale
Mild malt 4.50 lb 57.69%
Pale malt 2.50 lb 32.05%
Crystal malt 0.40 lb 5.13%
No.3 invert sugar 0.40 lb 5.13%
Caramel
Fuggles 60 min 1.00 oz
Goldings 30 min 1.00 oz
OG 1031
FG 1009
ABV 2.91
Apparent attenuation 70.97%
IBU 28
SRM 28
Mash at 145º F
Sparge at 165º F
Boil time 90 minutes
pitching temp 65º F
Yeast Wyeast 1098 British ale - dry
The caramel is enough to get the colour to 28 SRM.
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Cool, thanks. Good find, that one isn't even in his Mild book!Hanglow wrote:Pilfered from a post Ron made on milds on beer advocate...
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I've done that Arkell recipe twice now and it's fantastic. Well worth a shot.
Anybody tried molasses in a mild? I've got a pound burning a hole in my cupboard.
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