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Newkie broon recipe

Post by DustyDog » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:56 pm

Hi, for AG#2 would love to make my fav bottled beer; Newcastle Brown, does anyone have or know of a good Newkie Brown recipe??? If you do could you post here please or give a link. Thanks fellas/girlies. :lol:

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by seymour » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:27 pm

There are lots of theories about that recipe, some even say it's a blend of two different finished beers, but it should be pretty easy to brew something similar(read: better by far). Here are some I've seen.

The modern Heineken/John Smith owned version is something like:
Newcastle Brown Ale
OG: 1048
ABV: 4.7%
IBU: 18
Colour: deep amber/copper (not brown)
Grainbill: Pale, Crystal Malt, Caramelized Invert Syrup
Hops: Target (90 min), small amount of Goldings (15 min)
Yeast: Scottish and Newcastle strain, possibly the same as Danstar Manchester and BrewLab F40?

or

OG: 1045
ABV: 4.7%
IBU: 24
Grainbill: 75% Pale, 15% Crystal Malt, 1% Chocolate Malt, 10% Sugar
Hops: Northern Brewer & Fuggles (90 min)
Yeast: Whitbread-B/S-04?


Newcastle Brown Ale (1928)
OG: 1060
ABV: 6.2%
Grainbill: 93% Pale, 7% Dark Crystal Malt
Hops: Northdown, Northern Brewer, Hallertau (I don't understand that claim, since Northdown and Northern Brewer didn't exist in 1928)
Yeast: an historic Newcastle-region ale brewery strain, possibly multi-strain

Here are two highly rated homebrew recipes from US supplier Northern Brewer:

Nukey Brown Ale
OG: 1052
IBU: 25
Colour: light brown
Grainbill: 92.3% Maris Otter, 2.6% Dark Crystal Malt, 2.6% Chocolate Malt, 2.6% CaraRed Malt
Hops: Fuggles (60 min)
Yeast: Whitbread-B, available as Wyeast 1098, White Lab WLP007, Safale S-04

Nut Brown Ale
OG: 1044
IBU: 18
Colour: brown
Grainbill: 88% Maris Otter, 3% Dark Crystal Malt, 3% Chocolate Malt, 3% Belgian Biscuit Malt, 3% Special Roast Malt
Hops: Fuggles (60 min)
Yeast: a decent English ale strain like Nottingham or Wyeast 1945 NB NeoBritannia
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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by IPA » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:29 am

There are recipes for 'The Dog' in both Dave Lines 'Brewing Beers Like Those You Buy' and Graham Wheeler's 'Brew Classic European Beers At Home' ( an excellent book available on Amazon UK) Geordies have various names for it 'Journey Into Space' and 'The Dog' being two of them
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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by DustyDog » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:19 am

Cheers will have a look at those books. Ya canna beat a bottle o dog. :lol:

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by PhilB » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:33 pm

Hi

I had a try following the recipe from the Szamatulski's "Clone Brews" book which was close ... but no cigar :( ... I attributed the fail mostly to my deciding to use Nottingham yeast though :? ... which left it too dry and over-emphasised the hops and the chocolate malt ... it was a nice beer, just norra dog :wink:
Their recipe went something like;

Newcastle Brown Ale
OG: 1050-51 (though I couldn't get that to predict the right alcohol level (they obviously expect fairly low attenuation) so I went with 1.048)
ABV: 4.7%
IBU: 26
Colour: 46 EBC
Grainbill: Pale (96.5%), Crystal Malt(1.5%), Chocolate Malt(1.5%) and Black Malt (0.5%, just enough to get the coulour right) ... mashed at 67C
Hops: Target (90 min - 22 EBU), Goldings (15 min - 4 EBU)
Yeast: Wyeast 1099 or 1098

... to throw even more options into the mix :wink:

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by fordpopular » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:35 pm

Interesting recipe here http://byo.com/english-bitter-pale-ale/ ... ne-recipes

As seymour says Its actually a blend of 2 ales, old ale and amber ale so quite a Long process

Dustydog, I see you are not far away from me, I'm just down the road in Allenheads

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by seymour » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:40 pm

fordpopular wrote:Interesting recipe here http://byo.com/english-bitter-pale-ale/ ... ne-recipes
As seymour says Its actually a blend of 2 ales, old ale and amber ale so quite a Long process...
I could be talked into that historically, but does anyone believe Heineken/John Smith's is still mass-producing Newcastle Brown as a two-batch-blend, lengthy-aging process with costly, specialized malts? For me, that's a big pill to swallow. For instance, I'm pretty sure all other Heineken/John Smith's products don't even use real pellet or whole hops at all, and not even specific varieties, but rather a homogenized high-alpha hop extract, and only a single boil addition. I sometimes enjoy a Newcastle Brown as much as the next guy, at the right time and place, but let's not idealize it. :)

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by DustyDog » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:18 pm

Aye Seymour, thats a few good points you have brought up, i cant see major breweries spending that much time brewing beer like they used to, i dont think they even brew it in Newcastle anymore. Either way, it is my fav (commercial) bottled beer. Ford Popular, aye mate not far at all, i'm between Alston & nenthead so very close, we will have to have a pint sometime. Drinking one as i type. (a Newkie Broon) :D

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by seymour » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:30 pm

DustyDog wrote:Drinking one as i type. (a Newkie Broon) :D
From a Geordie Schooner glass, I presume?

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by TC2642 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:36 pm

If I'm remembering correctly, they use colouring in the stuff made today, so I would think it is a lot lighter than most perceive it to be.
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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by seymour » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:52 pm

TC2642 wrote:If I'm remembering correctly, they use colouring in the stuff made today, so I would think it is a lot lighter than most perceive it to be.
I bet you're right. Even as it is, though, it's not brown at all. It's really a clear, medium orange-amber:

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by DustyDog » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:27 pm

Aye Lad, thats a good sight to see, a good bottle o dog, but this is by far better; 'cos its mine and its EMPTY. :lol:


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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by DustyDog » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:37 pm

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by PhilB » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:44 am

Hi Seymour
seymour wrote: I bet you're right. Even as it is, though, it's not brown at all. It's really a clear, medium orange-amber:
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... that pic looks more like what they sell here in the UK as Newcastle Amber Ale, I doubt whether you get that sold in the US :? ... I wonder if they sell it (the Brown that is) in different colours for different markets :?

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Re: Newkie broon recipe

Post by woblylegs » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:06 pm

its the same colour in the usa as it is here. i was in vegas a few years back and had a few bottles of the old dog. tastes just the same as it does here. its brewed in ohio i think from what i can remember on the bottle. they also had it on draught in one of the casio bars but i never tried it. my dad did and said it was spot on.
yes the newcastle brewery is pulled down now. they took a large amount of coal from the ground it was on. i think its getting built on now.
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