Nelson Sauvin

[Ben711200]

I've never used Nelson Sauvin before and have heard many good things. I'd like to do a single hop brew using it using the contents of a 100g pack that recently arrived from the Malt Miller.

Initial thoughts were just to do a SMASH, but I wonder if that would be a bit boring or wasteful and would welcome ideas on grain bills and hopping schedules to showcase it. Personal preference dictates a leaning to fuller body with a little residual sweetness and bitterness capped at 35-40ish IBU.

Sorry, rather vague but I'm not too sure where to start to compile this one. Any thoughts welcome!

Cheers

Ben

[TC2642]

Pale malt 90-95%, wheat malt 5-10% to an SG1045-1050, mash at 68oC, add bittering at 90min, 10min and KO for 40 IBU's and I think you'll have a beer to showcase the Nelson Savin

[Dave S]

I've never used Nelson Sauvin before and have heard many good things. I'd like to do a single hop brew using it using the contents of a 100g pack that recently arrived from the Malt Miller.

Initial thoughts were just to do a SMASH, but I wonder if that would be a bit boring or wasteful and would welcome ideas on grain bills and hopping schedules to showcase it. Personal preference dictates a leaning to fuller body with a little residual sweetness and bitterness capped at 35-40ish IBU.

Sorry, rather vague but I'm not too sure where to start to compile this one. Any thoughts welcome!

Cheers

Ben

I've just ordered some NS and am intending to brew a blonde beer with MO low colour and around 250g golden syrup. No idea how it will turn out as I've never used NS either, or golden syrup for that matter, or MO low colour . I'm thinking of a similar hop schedule as has been suggested with maybe dry hopping too

[Matt12398]

It can be a bit one dimensional on its own. It goes well with something like green bullet.

[micmacmoc]

I've been doing 100% low colour pale malt and 100% NS to 45IBU and 5% ish ABV experimenting with when the hops go in, using 100g to each 23litre brew. Its been great every time, I've used the same yeast for the last three brews, US05 which has been kept and re-used for the next brew. Going to do the same with galaxy hops next. You get a good feel for the hops this way. Trying to fit in an RIS too, it keeps getting pushed to the back of the queue as these brews are so darned addictive!
I have just ordered some standard Maris Otter to see what difference that has to the low colour in these sort of brews. the great thing is that the variations are endless and all tasty.

Happy brewing!

[micmacmoc]

double post, sorry

[Dave S]

It can be a bit one dimensional on its own. It goes well with something like green bullet.

Wouldn't that be the same though with any single hop? I'm keen to discover the true qualities of this hop. I've only tried one beer with them in and it was truly delicious.

[RobWalker]

It can be a bit one dimensional on its own. It goes well with something like green bullet.

I've not single hopped with it, but I get the same feeling too. Whilst it's highly aromatic and delicious, I think it lacks any oomph and complexity. I'd love to put it with a hop like galaxy on the flavour part.

[DeGarre]

20g at 0 minutes to soak for 15 does the business for almost any bitter. Bloody lovely.

[soupdragon]

I've only tried one beer with them in and it was truly delicious.

What beer was that Dave?

Cheers Tom

[Matt12398]

It can be a bit one dimensional on its own. It goes well with something like green bullet.

Wouldn't that be the same though with any single hop? I'm keen to discover the true qualities of this hop. I've only tried one beer with them in and it was truly delicious.

Yeah to a point but I think Nelson Sauvin is a fairly unique hop and you need something else to offset that white wine flavour. Otherwise it just tastes a bit odd. Tiny Rebel's Full Nelson is a prime example. Lovely beer but I feel it could be better with another hop.

Citra is another hop that in my opinion benefits being with another hops.

On the flip side though a hop like Apollo or Cascade seems to hold up well on its own.

That's just my opinion though and not everyone will agree.

[Hanglow]

I'm doing almost exactly the same thing three times with saaz, chinook and galaxy, my order from WHS is in the UPS depot as I type

I was planning on 95% MO and 5% unmalted grains, in my case a mix of flaked barley and oats. 100g of each hop, although for the saaz I'll bitter with magnum. about 4.8% abv and us05 yeast.

I did something similar with citra a few months ago and it was excellent. I think it's great as a single hop beer, as Fyne Jarl and Oakham citra and all manner of other single citra hopped beers prove

[Ben711200]

Interesting stuff. You've all got me thinking, and I'm really pleased when one of my questions produces conflicting and differing views.

There's an overwhelming consensus that it should be pale, with repeated mention of low colour MO. Don't know if that's because I mentioned SMASH or if the white wine flavours are just more suited? I'll be using the fresh sack of Crisp pale ale malt rather than that as I've just bought it. I like the suggestion of 5-10% wheat malt so will probably go with 90/10.

You've convinced me that it needs another hop with it, and I have something else I was hoping to try out soon which I've since read doesn't really stand up to much on its own. It sounds like they will be fairly complimentary if I've read everything right whilst digging online. It's a pack of Belma that I bought after thoroughly enjoying Skinners Lushingtons in a couple pubs back in the early summer.

It's all a learning curve regardless so there can be no mistakes short of managing to turn it to vinegar- I've never done it so far!

[malachy]

Nelson Sauvin Single Hop Ale
23L
ABV 5%
40IBU
10EBC
Pale Malt 4.7kg
Carapils 235g
27L boil time 70mins
Nelson Sauv 22g at start of boil
Nelson Sauv 11g @ last 15mins
Nelson Sauv 11g @ last 5mins
Nelson Sauv 33g @ turn off
Protofloc 1tsp last 15mins of boil

wyeast 1056 american ale @18C

Gained from Home Brew Beer by Greg Hughes.
I have brewed this and lovely jubbly. Refreshing Summer Ale tastes of gooseberry nothing wrong with Nelson Sauv by themselves in my humble opinion. Has a nice dry bite to it.

[DeGarre]

Malachy, your hopping schedule - start, 15m, 5m, 0m- is exactly what I've come to the conclusion is best for pale ales and bitters to suit my taste and then I aim for 35 to 50 ibus depending.