Hawkshead Drystonewall Stout

[Cheesey]

I've had this a couple of times when it's on at my boozer. It's absolutely fantastic stuff. As a newbie AG brewer , I'm starting with a simple bitter, but I would love to make something close to the Hawkshead ready for Xmas. Has anyone got a similar recipe?.

Cheers

C

[Cheesey]

OK this one has bombed, if you get a chance try it , as a major stout drinker this stuff is fantastic.
So what I'm after is some thing that is well balanced, not too bitter probably slightly sweet. Nice roast flavours a little chocolate/ cramel / fruit with a dry ish finish, with a good head for a hand pulled that isn't full of nitrogen!
ABV I seem to remember is 4.4 to 4.5.

[DeadFall]

Not seen it, but I'm a big fan of stouts. Do you have anything you can compare it too?

[orlando]

Don't know the beer but if you want a simple Stout that is absolutely fabulous and drinks like you describe, then try this.

4.200 kg Maris Otter (Crisp) (4.0 EBC) 82.8 %
0.500 kg Roasted Barley (1220.0 EBC) 9.9 %
0.300 kg Brown Malt (128.1 EBC) 5.9 %
0.075 kg Barley, Flaked (3.3 EBC) 1.5 %
25.00 g Fuggles [3.85 %] - Boil 60.0 min 9.2 IBUs
20.00 g Flyer [10.95 %] - Boil 60.0 min 20.5 IBUs
0.50 tsp Protafloc (Boil 15.0 mins)
10.00 g Fuggles [3.85 %] - Boil 10.0 min 0.3 IBUs
10.00 g Fuggles [3.85 %] - Boil 5.0 min 0.7 IBUs
1.0 pkg British Ale (White Labs #WLP005) [35.49 ml]

All Fuggles will work just adjust IBU to about 32. Mash 60 minutes at 67 for a sweeter finish.

[Cheesey]

Many thanks Orlando, I'll give it a go.
Deadfall it,s hard to compare , close to t'll bar stout, or green man's lurches . Sweeter and rounder than an Irish stout

[seymour]

Sadly, I've not tasted it, but it sure sounds like my kinda English oatmeal stout!

A list of ingredients is not a recipe per se, but this info comes directly from Hawkshead:

Hawkshead Dry Stone Stout
Hawkshead Brewery - Kendal, Cumbria, UK
ABV: 4.5%
Grainbill: Maris Otter, Rolled Oats, Wheat Malt, Crystal Malt, Chocolate Malt, Roasted Barley
Hops: Cascade & First Gold (90 min), Hersbrücker & Bramling Cross (15 min)
IBU: 55
Colour: opaque black
Yeast: English ale strain

[orlando]

Sadly, I've not tasted it, but it sure sounds like my kinda English oatmeal stout!

A list of ingredients is not a recipe per se, but this info comes directly from Hawkshead:

Hawkshead Dry Stone Stout
Hawkshead Brewery - Kendal, Cumbria, UK
ABV: 4.5%
Grainbill: Maris Otter, Rolled Oats, Wheat Malt, Crystal Malt, Chocolate Malt, Roasted Barley
Hops: Cascade & First Gold (90 min), Hersbrücker & Bramling Cross (15 min)
IBU: 55
Colour: opaque black
Yeast: English ale strain

Cascade in a Stout on paper that sounds like a terrible idea, I must look out for it.

[Hanglow]

It's a very good stout as you would expect from Hawkshead, I had it last week. I don't think they are capable of making a bad beer, at least of the ones I've tried. The hops are noticable but not too much and it has a dry finish

[seymour]

...Cascade in a Stout on paper that sounds like a terrible idea...

Really? That's everywhere over here. The strong roasted malt character can support strong hop flavours too. I think brewers should allow themselves to be more experimental in the way they hop dark ales. Cascade combined with First Gold supplies a cool New World/Old World citrus fusion.

[orlando]

...Cascade in a Stout on paper that sounds like a terrible idea...

Really? That's everywhere over here. The strong roasted malt character can support strong hop flavours too. I think brewers should allow themselves to be more experimental in the way they hop dark ales. Cascade combined with First Gold supplies a cool New World/Old World citrus fusion.

My point exactly. Without the cool part. Just because you can........!

[Clibit]

My first stout was hopped with Cascade and Centennial and was fantastic, I've not topped it since.

[seymour]

My point exactly. Without the cool part. Just because you can........!

I think I understand what you're saying. Like the other half of the time, I'm on here arguing that classic English styles don't need the over-the-top American ingredients to make them great. I've been seeing lots of great stouts round here lately with nothing but Fuggles, Bramling Cross, etc. That's cool too.

[Hanglow]

SN stout has cascade doesn't it? Modern american classic tbf

[seymour]

SN stout has cascade doesn't it? Modern american classic tbf

Yeah, Cascade or else another American hop with even more intense grapefruit/blackcurrant/pine resin. Sierra Nevada Stout (but not their Porter, which is a bit more faithful), Anchor Porter, Flying Dog Road Dog Porter and Gonzo Imperial Porter, Rogue Chocolate Stout and Shakespeare Oatmeal Stout, etc.

[orlando]

My point exactly. Without the cool part. Just because you can........!

I think I understand what you're saying. Like the other half of the time, I'm on here arguing that classic English styles don't need the over-the-top American ingredients to make them great. I've been seeing lots of great stouts round here lately with nothing but Fuggles, Bramling Cross, etc. That's cool too.

You do, adding to my surprise. But as I haven't tasted it I can't say.