Help on this recipe

[steambrew]

I need help with this recipe I was told it makes a strong English ale could someone check this a suggest any alterations
Pale malt 8.5 lbs
Wheat torrified 12 oz
Crystal malt 10 oz
Amber malt 1 oz
Target hops 1 oz
Challenger hops 1 oz
Golding hops 1 oz
Styron Golding 1 oz
Nottingham yeast
This is for 25 litres? I wonder if there is something missing any help appreciated

[seymour]

Those ingredients certainly work well together. What's the timing for those hop additions?

[steambrew]

The hops Target 60 min boil this should be 0.7 oz not as on the first recipe
Challenger 15 min boil 0.5oz not as on the first recipe
Golding 15 min boil 0.5 oz
Golding 1 min boil 0.5 oz
Styrian Golding 1 min boil 0.5 oz not as on the first recipe

I have been told this could be loosely based on a Bishops Fingers clone?
I am sure Seymour will have the. Answer

[seymour]

Yeah, that'll brew a delicious Best Bitter, in the realm of Bishops Finger I suppose, but better.

It's a matter of personal taste, but some people find Target hops harsh. If you have enough Challenger to substitute the first addition too, it will produce a more likely crowd-pleaser.

[steambrew]

Thanks Seymour for suggestions a brew day has been booked for the weekend

[seymour]

Thanks Seymour for suggestions a brew day has been booked for the weekend

Cheers, and happy brewing!

[Rookie]

Looks okay to me, although 1 oz. amber malt seems like a pretty small amount for the size batch you're making.

[seymour]

Looks okay to me, although 1 oz. amber malt seems like a pretty small amount for the size batch you're making.

That's true, good point. Amber malt is only about .6% of the whole. But still, I bet it'll make a subtle impression. I've found Amber Malt takes a long time to tone-down in fresh beer. I've tasted one of my favourite mild ale recipes with no amber malt, and with 3% amber malt. The version with no amber malt was tasty from the start. The version with amber malt had an unpleasant, almost harsh burnt grainy flavour at first but after aging several months it was even more delicious than the original. Based on that trial, 1-2% amber malt seemed like the sweet spot for something with a little extra complexity, but drinkable right away.

This was Thomas Fawcett Amber malt, by the way. I've seen recipe calling for >15% amber malt. All I can figure is they're using something a lot milder than Thomas Fawcett's version.

Anyone else have Amber malt experiences to share?

[Jocky]

Thomas Fawcett Amber is waaay stronger in flavour than Crisp Amber malt.

In terms of colour TF is about 100 EBC and provides a mild roasted coffee like flavour whereas Crisp is 50 EBC and is more like a home baked biscuit flavour.

[steambrew]

Have just spent a enjoyable day brewing this beer using target hops will keep you posted on taste asap