AG#009 Mild

[SiHoltye]

Hello,

I'm planning this mild at the weekend, it's really the recipe for Holdens Black Country Mild from the Real Ale Almanac courtesy of Norm.

Has anyone brewed this, and were there any thoughts?

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.25 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.0 EBC) Grain 92.19 %
0.18 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 3.90 %
0.09 kg Black (Patent) Malt (985.0 EBC) Grain 1.95 %
0.09 kg Chocolate Malt (Pale) (500.0 EBC) Grain 1.95 %
50.00 gm Fuggles [4.50 %] (90 min) Hops 21.3 IBU
1.43 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.43 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
24.00 L London, England Water
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.038 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.64 %
Bitterness: 21.3 IBU
Est Color: 28.6 EBC

[CrownCap]

Looks good, a similar mild is on my ever expanding list of to-do's!

Hey, good luck with the 1.43 Whirlflocs

[SiHoltye]

All right smartypants, stuff the finer detail, it'll be one whirlfloc but beersmith doesn't need to know that. Just realised I'll not have a cornie free for this brew in time. Since now would be the time to put another brew on for Xmas. (Mild apparently doesn't bottle particularly well. Something due to low hops and alcohol meaning it's a bit more delicate than other stuff.) I've got ingredients for this one, and also for the Simmonds Bitter that Durden Park speak so highly of. That won't mature for 3 months though so it's a bottle brew and hide it somewhere I reckon.

Bugger this thread is meaningless now. I want this one ready for Chrimbo. Sorry.

Got the Treacle Chocolate Stout Recipe from the newsletter as an option:

Tweaked for my length (27L - 12 bottles & corni + SAMPLING):

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.23 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.0 EBC) Grain 82.74 %
0.53 kg Roasted Barley (591.0 EBC) Grain 7.04 %
0.26 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 3.45 %
0.19 kg Chocolate Malt (Pale) (500.0 EBC) Grain 2.52 %
75.00 gm Cascade [6.90 %] (90 min) Hops 40.4 IBU
1.43 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
0.32 kg Molasses (157.6 EBC) Sugar 4.25 %
24.00 L London, England Water
2 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.062 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.03 %
Bitterness: 40.4 IBU
Est Color: 57.8 EBC

I'm missing the wheat and enough barley though, oh and enough cascade, and the molasses. It's never easy is it? I think I'll do this recipe on Sunday as long as H&G can despatch o/nite tomorrow.

Only one question really to anyone listening, what are molasses? Or more specifically what am I going to be looking for in Tesco tomorrow?

[Aleman]

Only one question really to anyone listening, what are molasses? Or more specifically what am I going to be looking for in Tesco tomorrow?

Molasses are Molasses.





















Its an unrefined sugar syrup, very dark, very . . . . bitter. Similar to Black treacle, but not replaceable by it. I've not seen any in my local supermarkets, but a health food store or Asian grocers might be more productive. I would look for it in the same place as Golden Syrup / Treacle.

Edit : I have some upstairs in the loft, from the last brew I made with it . . . Its a good few years old though

[Vossy1]

Molasses...also available from most farm shops and aggricultural suppliers for about £3 for 5ltrs

[DRB]

You can get it from the supermarkets it comes in granular form, its with all the sugar.

[johnmac]

Why would you want to use London water for a Black Country mild? Mild is not really a London beer.

[SiHoltye]

I've lost all confidence now in what beer to produce when. Gonna do a 50:50 lager to pale malt brew on Sunday, IBU's to 30. That'll be good by Xmas. I'll have a cornie free for it 'cos my 2nd brown porter is not the greatest. I think/know the mash temp was too low (didn't preheat & ended with 60° after 90mins) so I produced a wort lacking in body and to make matters worse I didn't boil off what I thought I would, leaving an under strength wort. Am drinking it now and it is a faint shadow of what might have been. Boo.

So a crowd pleaser is to be brewed Sunday (mostly lager drinkers in my family), and after that with the pressure of Xmas drinking off it's Simmonds Bitter to be done after that.

I wonder if others feel the expectation of Xmas visitors?

[ThomasBoze]

Why would you want to use London water for a Black Country mild? Mild is not really a London beer.

Could you (or someone else) expand on this. I'm really interested in the history.

[SiHoltye]

I'd use london water in a mild 'cos that's what comes out of my tap , I believe my technique needs further honing before I worry about other things like water authenticity.

[spearmint-wino]

So you not brewing today then SiHoltye? You seem to be flying through the AG brews at the moment

BTW are you going to the Sutton HB festival in 2 weeks?

[johnmac]

I'd use london water in a mild 'cos that's what comes out of my tap

Ah I see. I thought you were going to modify your water to make it like London water.

[SiHoltye]

No, i've got high levels of carbonates - apparantly. If I made changes so early in 'my career' I wouldn't have any reference to judge them by.

[SiHoltye]

Hello SW,

Yes it is full steam ahead at the moment, and it's great cos i am learning from mistakes everytime. The next attention to detail is mashing, with preheating and iodine tincture for conversion checking, being 2 watch words tomorrow.

I have spoken to my local HB shop this morning and they have the missing ingredients I need to do the newsletter Treacle Chocolate Stout so that's it for tomorrow. I'll bottle this leaving my soon to be empty corni available for the 50:50 lager:pale malt recipe that should clear for Xmas.

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 kg Lager Malt (3.9 EBC) Grain 50.00 %
3.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.0 EBC) Grain 50.00 %
80.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.40 %] (90 min) Hops 30.0 IBU
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.40 %] (15 min) Hops 2.6 IBU
1.43 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.43 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
24.00 L London, England Water
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.051 SG

Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.08 %
Bitterness: 32.6 IBU
Est Color: 7.9 EBC

Sutton HB Comp
Yes, I'm doing this and entering 6 bottles of Brown Porter I. However based on what I've learnt since I'm not confident it's much cop, but we'll see. It's a good excuse to drink from midday on a Sat! Are you going too SW?