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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by angelHomeBrew » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:16 pm

B64 and CDL are can lid standards, B64 not common in U.K and becoming obsolete. I *think* they will fit the same 202 can body. 202 being can standard of certain diameter, think it’s 53mm diameter iirc

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by McCoy » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:12 pm

B64 is the US standard, so they might exist for a while. Importing B64 lids could be the cheapest solution.

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by angelHomeBrew » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:13 pm

Think that’s right, it’s a bit of a minefield. As I understand it even as a standard in US the B64 is older and will be replaced by CDL (Ball) or equivalent ISE (Crown). Ball and Crown being the main can suppliers

I think the new standard replacing B64 has some material saving on lid. Tiny per lid, but considering the amount of can lids out there it makes a difference

Might be wrong, I looked into this stuff and it was confusing so got a commercial canning company to advise and help

For U.K. and Europe they advised to get working with the current 202 crown cans and lids and had chuck manufactured to suit

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by Northern Brewer » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:19 pm

Another option, the "Grolsch bottles" of canning : https://twisteecan.com

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by mozza » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:48 pm

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Christened the cannular the other night. Can’t wait to crack one open and give them to friends
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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by f00b4r » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:53 pm

mozza wrote:Image

Christened the cannular the other night. Can’t wait to crack one open and give them to friends
Did you find it messy? I see Kegland have already got a prototype shield they will be bringing out (as well as a semi automated version of the Cannular coming out too soon; more aimed at micro breweries)

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by f00b4r » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 pm

Northern Brewer wrote:Another option, the "Grolsch bottles" of canning : https://twisteecan.com

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They actually look a pretty good idea if you use some form of beer gun, cap on foam and if they provide a good seal. Perfect for some situations where you might not want to take glass bottles, although I don’t think I would want to bottle batches at that price.

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by mozza » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:33 pm

f00b4r wrote:
mozza wrote:Image

Christened the cannular the other night. Can’t wait to crack one open and give them to friends
Did you find it messy? I see Kegland have already got a prototype shield they will be bringing out (as well as a semi automated version of the Cannular coming out too soon; more aimed at micro breweries)
Actually very little mess if any. After watching Barneey’s video I was expecting a right mess but with mine only some very fine specks came out, and not with every can either.

Not enough to worry about. I think not overfilling the cans and making sure the vertical calibration is a tight as you can get away with, without deforming.
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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by WalesAles » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:16 pm

Northern Brewer wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:19 pm
Another option, the "Grolsch bottles" of canning : https://twisteecan.com

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NB,
Maybe not.........see `Are these cans reusable`.
https://twisteecan.com/elements/contact/

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by Northern Brewer » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:14 am

Supposedly the reps are saying that they can be reused a few times, and they plan to sell spare caps as well, but obviously the official line will be the one that sells most cans....

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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by LeeH » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:28 pm

I see zero benefit in those. ^^^


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Re: Cannular Canning Machine

Post by Jonnyconga » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:34 pm

Jonny from BrewKegTap here. The extra chuck we sell with the Cannular seamer fits CDL/ CDLE ends (lids). The 202 cans are all pretty much the same everywhere, it’s the ends that are different. We have a number of UK small breweries successfully using the machine with the supplied CDL chuck with UK sourced cans / ends.
As a few have said here the machine often needs some tinkering to get it setup properly but that’s what home brewing’s all about isn’t it?!

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