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Post by mysterio » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:32 pm

bod wrote:can you not get them to cut it for you mysti? i got large sheets of MDF cut to the size i needed on their huge wall mounted still saw thingy. think the first two cuts were free, after that it was a quid or something.
I should really ask. The staff in the East Kilbride B&Q are notoriously unhelpful though :lol:

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:17 pm

Frothy wrote:Sounds like you need a HERMS then SteveD :)

Matt
Yes! I realised that that was what it was when I saw your site, and that of another HERMS user. Ooohh the dark side is calling! To be honest, I'd only envisaged using it to recirculate wort at the end of the mash for clarification purposes..to replace the jug, as it were, with the bonus of being able to maintain, or even raise mash temperature. I'd still probably mash and rest in the insulated coolbox as normal, relying on the insulation to maintain temperature. From what I've read, proper HERMS usage recirculates for virtually the whole time, maintaining mash temperature using the heat exchanger, thus doing away the need for mash tun insulation. Mind you, why not keep the insulation? Then, strike heat can be lowered and the system doesn't have to work so hard.

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Post by Andy » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:23 pm

I'm intending to use HERMS in order to achieve consistent mash temperatures rather than the hit and miss affair I find it now. I'll still use my coolbox mash tun though 8)
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Post by DRB » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:11 pm

I'd think I would call the builders in to do that lot SteveD, :)

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Post by Seveneer » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:48 pm

SteveD wrote:From what I've read, proper HERMS usage recirculates for virtually the whole time, maintaining mash temperature using the heat exchanger, thus doing away the need for mash tun insulation. Mind you, why not keep the insulation? Then, strike heat can be lowered and the system doesn't have to work so hard.
Hi Steve,

I recirculate for the entire mash time and I don't insulate my mash tun.

Rather than the HERMS allowing me to do away with insulating the MLT I would say I get away with it. That said, the system doesn't seem to get overworked in maintaining the mash temperature.

It would be nice to reduce the strike heat but from my experience it doesn't really matter if you insulate of not when it comes to maintaining the mash temperature. The HERMS will still cope so long as it's a well thought out design.

Sounds like you have a lot of ideas and a lot of work ahead of you. My own opinion is that if you go to the trouble of seting up a recirculation system you may as well go the whole hog and make a HERMS. But then, I may be ever so slightly biased :wink:

/Phil.

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:57 pm

Regarding Herms...it's extra work to build, for sure, a circuit, another manifold, the heat exchanger itself, routing through the pump....but..once it's done no more extra work each brewday recirculating wort by hand in a jug that sloshes, and can be dropped, and watching the mash cool down as I do it. No doubt I'll try out my idea and also a proper HERMS mash ending up doing that which suits me best.

The truth is I'm lazy and if I expend a lot of one-off effort building it - not to mention the enjoyment of doing so - then I can be a lazy git on brew days as most of the manual lifting, carrying, jugging, and pipe connecting work would have been removed leaving one free to concentrate on the important aspects of brew day, namely eating fresh bread, cheese, and drinking beer of course...oh, and the actual brewing process. ;)

Get a builder in? Good idea! Good job I already have one in the form of my father in law, a builder/carpenter, recently retired, who is kicking his heels and itching to be doing something! I built our house extension largely with just Bill and myself and over the years I've aquired skills in plumbing, bricklaying, electrics, carpentry, tiling, and decorating from him.

This brewery is a big project, for sure, but it's very do-able. It'll just take time...and money. Support from the Memsahib is obtained by continuing to make a brew-mess of the kitchen at dinner time, over and over again ;) Then she can see the sense of me moving to the shed!

Initial work won't have much to do with brewing per se. It'll be about making the shed a fit place to do it. Brewery comes later. I'll post pics as I go.

Frothy

Post by Frothy » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:20 pm

Steve you may be interested in a few of these :)
http://www.brewzilla.nl/?brewhalla

Matt

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:59 am

Ye gods! What a site. Thanks. Mind you, I didn't see the most over the top home brewery I've ever seen (apart from the 800L ex-dairy plant brewery on that site) which is the St Angelo Brewery in Texas. it was featured in an edition of BYO magazine a few years ago. I think the Brewer is Claudius Budde. The entire garage was given over to brewing. Stuffed full.

Thanks for the heads up.

Steve

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