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Post by IanRMartin » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:46 pm

QUOTE (FlippinMental @ May 9 2006, 11:55 AM)Does molecular density differential play a part?  O2 being lighter than CO2, permitting O2 to occupy the free space between the CO2 atoms.  The pressure argument in this case serving to cloud the issue.

Positive pressure ba sets primary purpose, at least in fire fighting kit I have used,  was to flood the mask with O2 in the event the face seal was compromised, ie. visor smashed.  Your talking comparatively sort time scales, gas in motion, and therefore little opportunity for complex gas interaction.  :huh:
I suspect you are spot on FM,
This article also says it well, particulaly the very last sentance!
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So even though there is CO2 underpressure it will not stop O2 dissolving into the beer.

I've had to do a bit on gas laws for my scuba diving.
Ian

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Post by mysterio » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:53 pm

I get brown glass pint bottles from my homebrew shop for £2.50 for a dozen. So 3 dozen does your average 5 gallon batch. I've used them loads of times and I've never had an exploding bottle, touch wood...

I personally don't like the idea of storing beer in PET bottles but it's always something new to faff around with.

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Post by Horden Hillbilly » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:14 pm

I went down the road that Jim suggested, it is surprising how soon they mount up, I now have 16 crates which hold 12 bottles each & still have bottles left over which I do not have crates for!

Try asking friends, relatives, workmates, etc to save any empties they may have, offer some home brew in return & you will soon have them queing up to help you!

Most supermarkets have offers on from time to time, my local one had a world cup offer of buy 4 for £5, all decent brews as well.

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Post by stringy » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:24 pm

QUOTE Whatever you do, do not use ordinary beer bottles for bottle conditioning unless you need glass shards for a mosaic.

Really?? what do you mean be ordinary beer bottles??
I would have thought that any bottle which has previously held a beer under pressure would be fine to hold a bottle conditioned beer, as long as theres not too much conditioning sugar.

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Post by Frothy » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:18 pm

When I used to make Ginger Beer in 2L plastic lemonade bottles they would blow up like baloons. Never had one burst though (until I shot one with the air-rifle.)

Matt

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Post by mysterio » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:33 am

By the way if you can find the Grolsch swing-top bottles they're excellent for homebrew. You don't need to buy bottle-tops for one thing and they make a really satisfying crack when you flip one open. Occasionally you need to replace the rubber seals (every 10 batches or so) but they're cheap off H&G.

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Post by shaunmarrison » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:38 pm

After speaking to my favourite Home Brew Supplier (www.burghley-homebrew.com), they have put on Grolsch Swing-Top Bottles at £10 for 12.

They also have Regular Amber Bottles at £7 for 12.

Is this a good price? Does anyone recommend one over the other?

Thanks,

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Post by bitter_dave » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:06 pm

QUOTE (shaunmarrison @ Aug 11 2006, 02:38 PM) After speaking to my favourite Home Brew Supplier (www.burghley-homebrew.com), they have put on Grolsch Swing-Top Bottles at £10 for 12.

They also have Regular Amber Bottles at £7 for 12.

Is this a good price? Does anyone recommend one over the other?

Thanks,
Tescos currently have an offer of 3 swingtop Grolsh for £4. This means 12 bottles would set you back £16, you get to drink the beer :beer , and don't have to pay for postage.

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Post by shaunmarrison » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:23 pm

Hmm...

Thanks for that Dave. A maybe, but I don't like Grolsch and the postage is free on orders over £15 from www.burghley-homebrew.com.

Are the Grolsch ones much better than capping yourself?

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Post by bitter_dave » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:33 pm

QUOTE (shaunmarrison @ Aug 11 2006, 04:23 PM) Hmm...

A maybe, but Thanks for that Dave. Unfortunately, I don't like Grolsch and the postage is free on orders over £15 from www.burghley-homebrew.com.

Are the Grolsch ones much better than capping yourself?
I haven't used Grolsch bottles (I don't like it much either). I've used standard bottles and a capper and it is fairly easy to do.

If you do buy bottles of ale for using the bottles (and drinking!) make sure they can be capped - I found out that adnams bottles can't be capped after drinking loads of them :bonk

To be honest, I don't personally think it is worth buying empty bottles. Majestic sell nice ales at about a quid a bottle - only 50p more than getting an empty bottle. If you need bottles urgently then I guess it makes sense buying empty bottles (or having one monumental pi** up :lol: )

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Post by shaunmarrison » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:24 pm

I didn't realise that Majestic was cheap, I'll pop into my local store and check it out (the last time I went in there was 2 years ago and I paid something like £25 for a Case of 24 Boddingtons!!!)

If Adnams aren't any good, any suggestons for ones which are? I know I've got to get green or brown ones, and returnable/real ale ones. I was thinking St Peters, but they're a bit heavy...

Most of the ales I drink seem to be in clear bottles...Spitfire, Hobgoblin, etc.

I'm tempted to follow DaaB's advice and start rummaging through Recycling Bins on "bin day"....

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Post by Andy » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:14 pm

Majestic has great bargains on the beer front! I'm a regular :D


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Post by Bigster » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:25 pm

:o Blimey very tidy prices. Only thought they were in to wine. Are those pick up prices or internet only + delivery ?

I too am regular - all those bran flakes :D I think

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Post by Andy » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:26 pm

They're pick up prices :D

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Post by Bigster » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:32 pm

Cheers andy I feel a visit is in order as those abbott ale prices are down right tempting :D

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