cornie kegs

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AT

Post by AT » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:22 pm

got my two kegs yesterday and as i'm new to brewing i have a few stupid questions. they're second hand so how do i go about cleaning them properly. also they're 5 us gallons which if i do a 40 pint kit leaves me i think 7 pints and nowhere to put it. DAAB they have metal lids i presume that's good?

eskimobob

Post by eskimobob » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:38 pm

Probably a good idea to dismantle the Cornies - unscrew the gas inlet and beer outlet connectors and then remove the two dip tubes (one long one and one short one). You can then just about get your arm inside the keg and give it a good scrub out.

Apparently bleach based cleaners can pit stainless steel if left in contact for a long time so be careful with that. Apparently soda crystals are a good cleaner and should not harm the keg.

I have found the rubber parts the most difficult to clean - the smell of cola or sprite tends to get into the rubber and no matter how much you soak and scrub them it tends to linger. I've left the rubber parts to soak in a strong bleach based solution overnight and they seem to survive fine.

As for the 40 pint kits; good point. I have only used my Cornies for all grain brewing therefore adjusted the brew to suit. I guess you could simply reduce the water content when making your kit; you should find it has more body - not sure if it will make it more hoppy though.

Remember to reassemble your Cornies and check that they are gas tight before starting your next brew... :D

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:29 pm

Is it possible to force carb with a hambleton bard s30?

AT

Post by AT » Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:47 pm

just bought a twin set of redditch co2 regulators with the pipe work so all i need to do now is find a gas supplier in my area, my mate works in a pub so maybe (fingers crossed) he can supply me for a while

AT

Post by AT » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:51 pm

cheers DAAB there's one there right in my town

AT

Post by AT » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:57 pm

one last question (i hope) my main aim is to have a kegerator up and running by the time i make my first batch cause nobody likes warm beer. I was looking now on the net for a suitable tap can anybody (DAAB the all knowing) point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a double tap probably chrome, is the beer line a standard size or do i have to get a tap to suit the line or maybe fittings? and thanks everybody for all your help i don't think i'd ever have done this without all the knowledge you guys share

jasonaustin

Post by jasonaustin » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:26 am

The tap on mine is a Celli Cobra Plus 2 Chrome purchased from the UK distributors http://www.brewfitt.com

Other places I looked at:-

http://www.dawnvale.com/beerfonts.html

http://www.classicfonts.co.uk/index.php

Candirect (novanorm) as suggested by DaaB.

Regarding beer line/fittings: 3/8" JG seems to be a standard size for beer taps so go for this size if you can (but see below). Depends on your corny disconnects as to whether you will need further fittings - mine have barbed fittings which the 3/8" (actually it's 9.5mm OD) fit onto nicely.

However, the diameter of the tube has to be selected really to ensure the system is 'balanced'. Pressure drops along a length of tube, that (amongst other things) is dependant on the diameter of the tube - bigger diameter, smaller drop per length. If the pressure is too high at the tap you'll just get a glass of foam. Too low and it will take an age to fill a glass. Larger diameter tubes will require much longer lengths to achieve this balancing. There are some formulae to calculate this (check out http://www.northernbrewer.com/docs/html/corny-keg.html) but I did mine through trial and error - starting with a longer length of tube and cutting it down until I was happy.

AT

Post by AT » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:34 am

It sure is hard to find stuff i've been searching a long time and i came up with almost nothing. Is there a small cheap tap to draw beer from a cornie for parties? obviously it's not pracital to tear up a kegerator to go to a party

jasonaustin

Post by jasonaustin » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:48 am


AT

Post by AT » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:04 pm

perfect thanx

niall

Post by niall » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:05 am

Hi guys,

I'm in the process of buying a Cornie Keg from your old friend Norm. It's got the tap fitted to it so I need to get the regulator, which he'll supply and also I need to get the gas. Norm is looking into sending over an empty bottle but I need to make sure I can get it refilled.

Alexander - did you have any luck sourcing gas? I'm not too sure where to look for willing suppliers. I'm in Dublin but I don't mind looking elsewhere to get set up.

The cornie comes with a meter of 3/8" tubing and I'm hoping I will get away with this - from reading earlier posts I have visions of hundreds of feet of tubing winding its way around my garage to achieve carbonation!! My first brew to sit in the cornie will be an American style Pale Ale. I assume the carbonation for this will be somewhere between an ale and a lager so I'll have to check these carbonation charts. No doubt I'll have fun trying to get the pressure high enough without foaming all over the place.

I have an under counter fridge in the garage which should hold the keg (it doesn't have a freezer box so that gives me extra space). Dunno if I'll fit a gas bottle in as well as I'm not sure what its dimesions will be.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:29 am

I bought a gas bottle from Norm... I hope I don't have trouble finding a refill once it arrives!

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:34 am

Hah, I suspect they'd laugh at me if I asked them. I'll just go through the yellow pages I think.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:38 am

That's what i'm relying on seeing as I spent all my money on a cornie set up :lol:

niall

Post by niall » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:42 am

Looks like a challenge ahead of me - must see if I can think of anyone who knows a friendly publican....

I'll try Calor and AirProducts too and see if I have any luck!

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