Cornie conversion with cask widge float

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by bigtoe » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:34 pm

Hogarth wrote:Yeah, I'm going to use a spare gas tube, at least at first. Seems a shame to butcher a full-length tube: there might be times when you don't want to use the float.
Aye good idea...I have a lathe here so making a sleeve to rejoin the long tube back on is always possible, even making it removable so I can use it both ways if needed.

Honestly though I don't think I will be going back, the silicone tube is way easier to clean and i would always make a weight from 304 to take the place of the float if needed.

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by gobuchul » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:39 pm

I am thinking of trying this on a couple of cornies.

Apart from the colour, is there any difference between the red, black and clear float heads?

http://www.caskwidge.com/shop/index.php ... GanUHAmpW1

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by bigtoe » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:25 pm

gobuchul wrote:I am thinking of trying this on a couple of cornies.

Apart from the colour, is there any difference between the red, black and clear float heads?

http://www.caskwidge.com/shop/index.php ... GanUHAmpW1
No clue, one of the lads said he uses the red float and tube saying its the perfect length, the tube is also a little more flexible than the tube i linked too.

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Oakey22 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:40 am

Not sure about the different colours but I use the red float and tube.

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:43 pm

gobuchul wrote:I am thinking of trying this on a couple of cornies.

Apart from the colour, is there any difference between the red, black and clear float heads?

http://www.caskwidge.com/shop/index.php ... GanUHAmpW1
afaik the colour is simply coding for which vessel the float will sit in and drain, the floats are identical, just the supply hose length differs. the red are ideal to use out of the pack with the optimum corny length of silicone hose.
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Hogarth » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:33 pm

Okay, am I missing something? I just bought a red cask widge and fitted it in my cornie, but according to my experiments with water there's no way this is going to work. The rigidity of the silicon tube keeps the float wedged firmly against the far side of the keg, and it doesn't move at all with the level of the liquid.

How are you guys getting yours to float freely?

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:24 pm

got the vertically ribbed silicone tube? (ribs run along the tube length)

if so dangle it from one end and it will reveal its natural curve, and fit it in the keg so it bends along its natural curve across the diameter of the keg.

Then if you fill with the float at the bottom it will stay there and not rise with the beer as you fill so u need to fill and then drop in the float.

works with all 3 of my modded kegs, i tend to have a bowl of starsan next to where i keg into which the float sits secured by the lid til i drop it in. ** edit** to be clear i place the float in as not to twist or kink the tube..
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:33 pm

also.. the length of tube i use is just sufficient in length that the float lies virtually horizontally in the top of the bottom dome when empty.. it leaves more beer behind but you dont pour any initial murky pints..

it wont float freely it floats in contact with the far side against its curl hence ensuring you fit with the natural curl of the tube providing it the full keg diameter to curl in.. i know what i mean but think i have totally failed to get it across..
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:35 pm

if still no joy try wrapping a bit of ptfe round the float where it rubs down the keg side??
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Hogarth » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:50 am

Thanks, Fil. The silicon tube is smooth, no ribs. But I did refit it in accordance with its natural curve, and this time the float more or less went down with the water level. But now and then it looked like I'd be getting a glassful of CO2 rather than beer, and it stopped with a good few pints to go.

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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:08 am

ive had mine a few years now so they may have changed tubes?? the vertically ribbed tube as i call it seems to allow just enough flex n bend without thinning the wall too much so it kinks.

Its worth contacting caskwidge, i phoned them once with an order query they bent over backwards to help, i ordered a cleaning brush set wanting the tube cleaning brush but alone it was 3/4 the price of the set, and brewery cleaning brushes ;) Anyway i was very politely informed of my error in that the tube brush isnt included in the set DOH!! my dispondency may have illicited sympathy and i explained i only used the floats and tubes, they sent me out a tube brush by next day courier free of charge.. So if a tube error was made or they have any older ribbed tubes left, Or know of a solution They have sponsored corny mod use of their floats in the past..
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:09 am

OR???? Perhaps conditioned beers is more slippy :)

OR????? add some mass to the float without sinking it :)

I have on one occasion needed to give a keg a nudge but rarely and generally close to first pouring, Every time ive opened a dead keg ive been greated with the sight of the float hanging just off horizontal in the base dome.
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Fil » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:18 am

wont internal keg pressure effect the floats buoyancy too? with more 'air' above it wont it sink deeper?
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by orlando » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:52 am

Why don't you just put clear beer into the corny in the first place? :D
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Re: Cornie conversion with cask widge float

Post by Hogarth » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:24 pm

orlando wrote:Why don't you just put clear beer into the corny in the first place? :D
Ha. Actually, it was reading that thread last week about pressurized, oxygen-free transfers that made me to decide to stick with natural carbonation. :lol:

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