Yes, Norm has a range of regulators and can supply the gas bottle too (although you have to collect the gas bottle as compressed gas canisters can't be posted).
When I bought my bottle from Norm, he was doing a special on a 6 way gas distribution board (two independant regulators: 5 outputs on one pressure for dispensing and 1 output on a second regulator - supposed to be used for carbonating). The price worked out only just more than buying a twin output reg so apart from the larger size it's a good buy.
Want a new keg
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PieOPah
Just got a reply back from Norman.
QUOTE HI SIMON,
ALTHOUGH I SUPPLY ALL THIS EQUIPMENT TO HOME BREWERS I AM NOT ONE MYSELF,!!
SO THE INFO IS JUST ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, I DO TWO TYPES OF KEG ONE CONVERTED
WITH TAP NUMBER220020559963 ON EBAY OR PLAIN KEG NUMBER 220020488958, THE
TAP ON THE CONVERTED ONE DOES NOT HAVE A SPARKLER ON JUST A FLOW
CONTROL,EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN INLET AND OUTLET DISCONNECT TO PRESSURISE THE
KEG AND RELEASE THE BEER ,I ALSO SUPLY 2 METRES OF CONNECTING PIPE FOR EACH
KEG.THATS ABOUT IT
COVERTED KEG £45 +£10 P&P =£55
PLAIN KEG    £30 +£10 "   £40
PRICE REDUCTION ON MORE THAN ONE .
HOPE THIS INFO IS WHAT YOU WANT HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN
REGARDS NORMAN
I assume that I would want the converted keg. Being that for now all that I want to do is use the cornie to dispense beer and will be naturally carbing (with priming sugar) what else would I need from him? It seems that I will need to buy a sparkler tap from hop&grape....
QUOTE HI SIMON,
ALTHOUGH I SUPPLY ALL THIS EQUIPMENT TO HOME BREWERS I AM NOT ONE MYSELF,!!
SO THE INFO IS JUST ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, I DO TWO TYPES OF KEG ONE CONVERTED
WITH TAP NUMBER220020559963 ON EBAY OR PLAIN KEG NUMBER 220020488958, THE
TAP ON THE CONVERTED ONE DOES NOT HAVE A SPARKLER ON JUST A FLOW
CONTROL,EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN INLET AND OUTLET DISCONNECT TO PRESSURISE THE
KEG AND RELEASE THE BEER ,I ALSO SUPLY 2 METRES OF CONNECTING PIPE FOR EACH
KEG.THATS ABOUT IT
COVERTED KEG £45 +£10 P&P =£55
PLAIN KEG    £30 +£10 "   £40
PRICE REDUCTION ON MORE THAN ONE .
HOPE THIS INFO IS WHAT YOU WANT HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN
REGARDS NORMAN
I assume that I would want the converted keg. Being that for now all that I want to do is use the cornie to dispense beer and will be naturally carbing (with priming sugar) what else would I need from him? It seems that I will need to buy a sparkler tap from hop&grape....
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PieOPah
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mysterio
The tap on the converted keg I bought from Norm gave a decent head (although I don't really know what a sparkler looks like). My tap has a little white widgety thing in the nozzle which might be a sparkler.
Pie bear in mind Norm's kegs don't have an s30 valve modification (at least mine doesnt), so you will have to get a gas cylinder or widget world set up.
The tap that is on my keg is £17.50 on H&G, so I think Norm's £45 for a converted keg is good value for money.
Pie bear in mind Norm's kegs don't have an s30 valve modification (at least mine doesnt), so you will have to get a gas cylinder or widget world set up.
The tap that is on my keg is £17.50 on H&G, so I think Norm's £45 for a converted keg is good value for money.
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jasonaustin
Found this re sparklers. I thought they just knocked gas out of solution and produced a fake head. Didn't know about the bitterness issue.
"If you agitate the beer it foams up. This has the effect of taking
bitterness from the body of the beer into the foam. The age old method of
serving beer is to pour it direct from a tap in the cask. This spills out
under the simple influence of gravity (hence the name given to this method
of dispense) into a jug or glass. To put a pretty head on this beer hold
the glass further below the tap. Handpumps draw the beer through pipes
attached at one end to the cask to the other the spout. Obviously the beer
is agitated a bit more as the beer is forced through the pipes, pump and
valves. If small bore pipes are employed with many throws of the pump, or
impeller pumps are used, the beer is shaken about rather more. If the
spout is simply a tap with no restriction, then the beer is poured into
the glass gently. On the other hand it may be a small diameter pipe, which
is used nowadays, often in the form of a hairpin which has the effect of
shooting the beer into the glass and really stirring it up. This
small-bore hairpin is called a "swan neck".
By squirting the beer through a nozzle containing small holes in it,
called a "sparkler", an even greater effect is obtained. Sometimes a very
dull beer can have "life" added to it by passing it through a simple
restriction in a plain spout. Normally though the sparkler is used
indiscriminately to foam the beer and make it look like you see on the
telly.
The trouble is that this is not just about what it looks like. Bittering
agents especially migrate to the surfaces of the bubbles in the foam
making the foam bitter, but this flavour comes from the body. (Taste the
foam then the beer.) There is a myth that 'Northern' beers have always
been served like this. However today this appears to be accepted as fact
by many. Assume that country pubs in the south of the country will tend to
have plain dispense without swan-necks and sparklers and the opposite
applies elsewhere. The disputes arise because some people prefer, or are
simply used to, having the bite taken out of their beer. Some people don't
go by taste at all but assume the beer is flat and therefore "off" if it
doesn't foam up, not realising that the appearance is due to the barmaids
muscles, not the basic condition."
"If you agitate the beer it foams up. This has the effect of taking
bitterness from the body of the beer into the foam. The age old method of
serving beer is to pour it direct from a tap in the cask. This spills out
under the simple influence of gravity (hence the name given to this method
of dispense) into a jug or glass. To put a pretty head on this beer hold
the glass further below the tap. Handpumps draw the beer through pipes
attached at one end to the cask to the other the spout. Obviously the beer
is agitated a bit more as the beer is forced through the pipes, pump and
valves. If small bore pipes are employed with many throws of the pump, or
impeller pumps are used, the beer is shaken about rather more. If the
spout is simply a tap with no restriction, then the beer is poured into
the glass gently. On the other hand it may be a small diameter pipe, which
is used nowadays, often in the form of a hairpin which has the effect of
shooting the beer into the glass and really stirring it up. This
small-bore hairpin is called a "swan neck".
By squirting the beer through a nozzle containing small holes in it,
called a "sparkler", an even greater effect is obtained. Sometimes a very
dull beer can have "life" added to it by passing it through a simple
restriction in a plain spout. Normally though the sparkler is used
indiscriminately to foam the beer and make it look like you see on the
telly.
The trouble is that this is not just about what it looks like. Bittering
agents especially migrate to the surfaces of the bubbles in the foam
making the foam bitter, but this flavour comes from the body. (Taste the
foam then the beer.) There is a myth that 'Northern' beers have always
been served like this. However today this appears to be accepted as fact
by many. Assume that country pubs in the south of the country will tend to
have plain dispense without swan-necks and sparklers and the opposite
applies elsewhere. The disputes arise because some people prefer, or are
simply used to, having the bite taken out of their beer. Some people don't
go by taste at all but assume the beer is flat and therefore "off" if it
doesn't foam up, not realising that the appearance is due to the barmaids
muscles, not the basic condition."
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Road Runner
Selling Kegs!!! 
I hope recent health issues aren't forcing you to give up home brewing? Or is this because the brew pub thing with your Land Lord hasn't taken off?
As for the sparklers. I have Sparkler attatchments for all my kegs, but I don't fit them. I've found that the beer in the kegs has enough pressure to cause the beer to foam plenty enough to produce a nice head. Fitting the Sparklers, I've found, just causes the beer to foam too much.
I hope recent health issues aren't forcing you to give up home brewing? Or is this because the brew pub thing with your Land Lord hasn't taken off?
As for the sparklers. I have Sparkler attatchments for all my kegs, but I don't fit them. I've found that the beer in the kegs has enough pressure to cause the beer to foam plenty enough to produce a nice head. Fitting the Sparklers, I've found, just causes the beer to foam too much.
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PieOPah
Well, I have thought about this and thought about it and thought about it some more.
I have decided it is probably economically better for me to order a King Keg with a sparkler tap.
I think that the Cornie setup is ideal if you plan on Force Carbonating, but other than that I can't really see enough benefit for somebody like me who will be naturally carbonating.
I have decided it is probably economically better for me to order a King Keg with a sparkler tap.
I think that the Cornie setup is ideal if you plan on Force Carbonating, but other than that I can't really see enough benefit for somebody like me who will be naturally carbonating.
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PieOPah
And I have found an even cheaper alternative.
http://www.leylandhomebrew.com/item806.htm to fit most plastic pressure barrels.
I have sent an E-mail to Leyland Home Brew so am expecting a reply hopefully by tomorrow.
If one of these taps will fit my Budget Barrel, I could find myself buying 2 and a new BB.
for around £45 I could end up with 2 Kegs with sparkler taps (giving a much better pour and hopefully not wasting as much gas) rather than spending £50 - £70ish and only having one system with a decent tap!!!
The sooner I get a reply, the sooner I can rack my beer (2 weeks in primary). The sooner I can rack my beer, the sooner I can start on my next brew 'Arge's Festivities'
EDIT Damn it, a quick phone call to find that it would be no good for a BB since it uses a back nut. Can also only be used as Top Tap.
Looks like it will be the KK after all....
http://www.leylandhomebrew.com/item806.htm to fit most plastic pressure barrels.
I have sent an E-mail to Leyland Home Brew so am expecting a reply hopefully by tomorrow.
If one of these taps will fit my Budget Barrel, I could find myself buying 2 and a new BB.
for around £45 I could end up with 2 Kegs with sparkler taps (giving a much better pour and hopefully not wasting as much gas) rather than spending £50 - £70ish and only having one system with a decent tap!!!
The sooner I get a reply, the sooner I can rack my beer (2 weeks in primary). The sooner I can rack my beer, the sooner I can start on my next brew 'Arge's Festivities'
EDIT Damn it, a quick phone call to find that it would be no good for a BB since it uses a back nut. Can also only be used as Top Tap.
Looks like it will be the KK after all....
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mysterio
I get a good head on my King Keg pints by charging it up with a lot of gas before dispensing, and wrapping nylon sock around the tap. Like you say it's a waste of gas though. As much as I like the idea of natural carbonation, I don't see myself going back after force carbing lager with cornies - this from a fully paid up CAMRA member :rolleyes:
There was a great thread on HomeBrewTalk.com about a guy who made a beer engine for his corny, I fancy trying something like that one day!
There was a great thread on HomeBrewTalk.com about a guy who made a beer engine for his corny, I fancy trying something like that one day!
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eskimobob
Have you got a link to that by any chance Myste?mysterio wrote:There was a great thread on HomeBrewTalk.com about a guy who made a beer engine for his corny, I fancy trying something like that one day!
I've been thinking ahead and considering purchasing a 4 tap brass T-bar thingy for some day in the future when I sort out a bar of some kind but I am very tempted to go for a beer engine approach instead to get it a bit more authentic.
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deadlydes
since you said you will mainly be doing ales and will be naturally carbonating why not get these http://www.cypherco.com/brewing/pincask.html
not strictly kegs but casks. they are only about £12 each and are great.
if you dont intend drinking 4.5 gals in 48 hrs you will need a large co2 cylinder and cask breather but they are both relativly cheap
keystones etc are also cheap.
they are normally hooked up to beer engines for dispence
not strictly kegs but casks. they are only about £12 each and are great.
if you dont intend drinking 4.5 gals in 48 hrs you will need a large co2 cylinder and cask breather but they are both relativly cheap
keystones etc are also cheap.
they are normally hooked up to beer engines for dispence