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Re: Hop filter

Post by orlando » Sun May 19, 2013 5:38 pm

far9410 wrote:I've read, probably on here, that half a protofloc tablet is enough(I do 23l brews) what dya reckon?
If that comes to more than 1/2 teaspoon probably too much.
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Re: Hop filter

Post by Highlander » Sun May 19, 2013 6:30 pm

darkonnis wrote:Highlander, i did consider your design before but I figured too much ofthe break material would get through? Thats obviously the wrong assumption I'm guessing?
stevetk189 wrote:OK, I'm just chipping in here but if you're looking at a filter of any sort that runs around the outside edge of the copper don't bother thinking about whirlpooling. That will get all the solids ie the hops that actually form the filter bed into a nice tidy pile in the centre, well away from your filter/strainer. You may be lucky and be able to whirlpool fast enough that only clear wort reaches the outer - by then - non filtering filter. Most likely outcome is a tonne of shite, hop seeds and crudddddd getting through.

If you want a filter that fits around the outer edge, you need to let those hops settle evenly across the base or be prepared to re-circ a lot until they make their way over to the filter and begin to actually do something.

If you want to whirlpool, so far i've found that a central or slightly offest centre strainer still works best as all the hops are spun right down onto the top of it.
I tend to whirlpool for a bit to get all the small stuff in the middle. I find that with the suction the hops still stick to the filter and in general the surface air of hops seem to grab the hot break. But now I've got a new toy to play with.
https://www.brewershardware.com/FILTER1.html
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Re: Hop filter

Post by barneey » Sun May 19, 2013 8:43 pm

Highlander wrote:
I tend to whirlpool for a bit to get all the small stuff in the middle. I find that with the suction the hops still stick to the filter and in general the surface air of hops seem to grab the hot break. But now I've got a new toy to play with.
https://www.brewershardware.com/FILTER1.html
Photos in a day or 2.
Now considering I`ve had mine for nearly six months & I`m yet to finish my boiler off, to actually beable to use the thing, due to someone having my new ballvalve and pump :whistle: who will be the first to use the aforemention filter, + I dont want you holding the valve / pump up on purpose [-X :D

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Re: Hop filter

Post by darkonnis » Sun May 19, 2013 9:20 pm

Do you whirlpool through the chiller or connect that up after Highlander?
Ithink I've got my design sorted so I'll get some photos up when it all arrives and I have time to make it

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Re: Hop filter

Post by Highlander » Mon May 20, 2013 1:21 pm

barneey wrote:
Now considering I`ve had mine for nearly six months & I`m yet to finish my boiler off, to actually beable to use the thing, due to someone having my new ballvalve and pump :whistle: who will be the first to use the aforemention filter, + I dont want you holding the valve / pump up on purpose [-X :D

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Who would do that, not I :^o planning a double brew this weekend.
darkonnis wrote:Do you whirlpool through the chiller or connect that up after Highlander?
Ithink I've got my design sorted so I'll get some photos up when it all arrives and I have time to make it
Yep just let it circ though to steralise everything. it does tend to let crap through. trub filter, should take care of that.

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Re: Hop filter

Post by Tippler » Mon May 20, 2013 6:45 pm

I have been having similar thoughts about the need to use a better filter if I get a plate chiller. Has anyone tried draining from the boiler in the usual way, but letting the wort pass through 2 or 3 progressively finer filters lined up in, say, a spare fermenter, before it goes on to the plate chiller?

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Re: Hop filter

Post by chastuck » Mon May 20, 2013 10:31 pm

Here's my hop filter, shown in it's dismantled form for cleaning. The bits just push-in together inside the boiler and the T piece is swivelled down to drop into the bottom draining hole at the front of the boiler. The ring is about 33cm across and the holes are 1.5mm.
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Re: Hop filter

Post by jmc » Tue May 21, 2013 12:24 am

chastuck wrote:Here's my hop filter, shown in it's dismantled form for cleaning. The bits just push-in together inside the boiler and the T piece is swivelled down to drop into the bottom draining hole at the front of the boiler. The ring is about 33cm across and the holes are 1.5mm.
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Looks similar to mine which is fine for whole hops.

Do you use whole hops or pellets?

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Re: Hop filter

Post by chastuck » Tue May 21, 2013 10:47 am

jmc wrote:
chastuck wrote:Here's my hop filter, shown in it's dismantled form for cleaning. The bits just push-in together inside the boiler and the T piece is swivelled down to drop into the bottom draining hole at the front of the boiler. The ring is about 33cm across and the holes are 1.5mm.
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Looks similar to mine which is fine for whole hops.

Do you use whole hops or pellets?
I use whole hops. I don't think this ring has holes fine enough for pellets. My hop strainer is homemade from 22mm tube and fittings, but making the ring shape was the most difficult part. The curve was too great for a pipe bender, so I blocked the ends of the pipe with molten lead after filling it with fine sand. I then used a blow lamp to bend it round a wooden former I made. I wrapped cloths soaked in cold water round the pipe ends to stop the lead melting as I applied the heat. Cocked the first attempt up completely, but got it right with a second piece of pipe. It works well.

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Re: Hop filter

Post by andybiochem » Sat May 25, 2013 9:03 am

Boy do I feel inadequate...

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Re: Hop filter

Post by far9410 » Sat May 25, 2013 12:30 pm

andybiochem wrote:Boy do I feel inadequate...

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Yeah but does it work?
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Re: Hop filter

Post by darkonnis » Sat May 25, 2013 2:40 pm

far9410 wrote: Yeah but does it work?
Was just about to ask that. If it works, don't knock it!

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Re: Hop filter

Post by chastuck » Sat May 25, 2013 6:33 pm

chastuck wrote:
jmc wrote:
chastuck wrote:Here's my hop filter, shown in it's dismantled form for cleaning. The bits just push-in together inside the boiler and the T piece is swivelled down to drop into the bottom draining hole at the front of the boiler. The ring is about 33cm across and the holes are 1.5mm.
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Looks similar to mine which is fine for whole hops.

Do you use whole hops or pellets?
I use whole hops. I don't think this ring has holes fine enough for pellets. My hop strainer is homemade from 22mm tube and fittings, but making the ring shape was the most difficult part. The curve was too great for a pipe bender, so I blocked the ends of the pipe with molten lead after filling it with fine sand. I then used a blow lamp to bend it round a wooden former I made. I wrapped cloths soaked in cold water round the pipe ends to stop the lead melting as I applied the heat. Cocked the first attempt up completely, but got it right with a second piece of pipe. It works well.
Further to my picture of the hop filter components, this is how it fits inside my 50L boiler:
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Re: Hop filter

Post by andybiochem » Sun May 26, 2013 5:16 pm

far9410 wrote: Yeah but does it work?
Yeah works really well! I have some finer plastic mesh that I use to prevent yeast/finings getting through to the bottling bucket.

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Hop filter

Post by jmc » Mon May 27, 2013 1:34 am

andybiochem wrote:
far9410 wrote: Yeah but does it work?
Yeah works really well! I have some finer plastic mesh that I use to prevent yeast/finings getting through to the bottling bucket.

:lol: :lol:
Do you use this when dry hopping and/or in a boiler?

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