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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by GARYSMIFF » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:01 am

watching with much interest, keep the photos coming

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:20 pm

Thought I would at least try the components I have for the front panel today to see what it would eventually look like.

Still awaiting 3 Yellow LED`s, 1 Red LED, The Labels, 3 Switches and need to order another PID from somewhere. (BTW if anyone has some spare LED covers they want to swap for Blue ones let me know.)

For my build I changed the colour scheme with Green being "ON" + "Reset Switch" + LED Volt & AMP Meter and Blue for the pumps (seemed more logical to me at least - Green for Go and Blue for Water / Liquor)

Still have to mount the Boiler variable control + Flow Meter if I can?

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by GARYSMIFF » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:25 am

Looking good, might be your last chance to decide if you are going to brush up the SS panel with a sander before you put the spaghetti in it.

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by themadhippy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:44 am

How you going to manage the cable layout?cable ties or are you doing it properly and using sloted trunking
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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:51 am

themadhippy wrote:How you going to manage the cable layout?cable ties or are you doing it properly and using sloted trunking

I`m very much open to suggestions at the moment, I have bought neither cable ties or any trunking so have a blank canvas. One advantage I do have over the Electric Brewery Build is the cabinet size is larger and I`ve kept the components on the front further apart to it shouldnt look so cluttered.

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by JonoT » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:05 am

barneey wrote:Any sparkies / electronics eng in the Kent area?
I'd love to offer my services to help with the electrics as I think this is such a fantastic idea, however Sheffield is rather a long way from Kent! :(

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:56 am

GARYSMIFF wrote:Looking good, might be your last chance to decide if you are going to brush up the SS panel with a sander before you put the spaghetti in it.
Yep will be doing that, one big disadvantage of using stainless over a mild steel box (spray painted) is it marks fairly easily during the cutting stage but being a brushed finish easy enough to sand out. I would never have used a polished SS box :D (unless it was cheaper)
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barneey wrote:Any sparkies / electronics eng in the Kent area?
I'd love to offer my services to help with the electrics as I think this is such a fantastic idea, however Sheffield is rather a long way from Kent! :(
Thanks for the thought anyway :D , there never seems to be many members down this part of the world :cry:
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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by themadhippy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:31 pm

Any sparkies / electronics eng in the Kent area
bit far for me too,only allowed in kent once every couple of years,what do you want to know?
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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:50 pm

Well as you might have guessed I`m not a sparky by trade by any stretch of the imagination but have built various electronic kits over the years etc, even got an "O" level in the subject :)

Really it was just if someone was local and wanted to help out (hold my hand) for the internal bit I wouldnt have minded the help to make it look neat and tidy inside.

Having now read up on "Slotted Trunking" would you say the "closed" or the "open" trunking be the best to use? + I was thinking about a perimeter trunking & 2 or 3 horizontal pieces, bearing in mind the components / layout will be very similar to the original Electric Brewery build, just want to make it neater if possible.

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by themadhippy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:17 pm

would you say the "closed" or the "open" trunking be the best to use?
open is easier to use,the top of the slot is open so no need to feed the cables through the slot,but closed holds its shape better without a lid.On the door id run 3 horizontal strips,1 below the meters,1 below the pids and 1 below the blue leds,then 2 verticals,1 up each side,but it might be a bit tight top left between the key switch and rotary switch.no need for anymore holes to fix the trunking,doublesided tape works well,especially if you wipe the steel down with nail varnish remover first. in the pannel id get everything laid out on the base plate then see what layout works,and for the cables between the door and panel id use some spiral wrap.
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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:55 pm

Thanks for the advice, I`ve also yet to cut the holes in the cabinet for the power etc so the board layout is a very blank canvas at the moment.

When I`ve had a play around I`ll post a couple of pics for comments.

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:55 am

With the electirc brewery build, is there any reason why 2 separate power supplys are needed http://theelectricbrewery.com/control-p ... t-2?page=9 could you get away with just one 5v 2.5a one?

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by Matho » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:57 am

I can't see any reason why not, if I was going to put something like that on then I would get rid of the transformers and use a switchmode power supply like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-4A-Univer ... 43b05c08d4

the only reason for having 2 separate supplies is the adjust individual brightness

I really can't see any reason for having a volt and current meter, except for bling (but isn't that what it is all about :) ), as your voltage should be within supply standards and there is nothing you can do about it and for current you are going to have to work it out before turn the unit on anyway.

cracking build barneey, it looks awesome

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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by themadhippy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:02 pm

NO,reading the details on the site
Because of the way this particular volt meter is designed (one of the AC inputs is tied to the DC ground), separate power supplies and transformers must be used in order to isolate the meters from each other. Trying to use one power supply and transformer to power both meters will destroy the meters (ask us how we know!) even through the supplied instructions say this is possible.
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Re: Electric Brewery Build UK Version

Post by barneey » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:10 pm

Thank you both for the replies, not wishing to damage any components I`ll use the 2 x 5v supplies I have for the build, just seemed a bit daft to have to use two, but always willing to learn from someone elses mistakes.

Yep Steve your right its only really for extra bling having them on there in the first place, more expensive to + extra work involved, still glad I put them in tho.

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