Insulation for boliers a la B&Q

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Insulation for boliers a la B&Q

Post by Pete » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:24 pm

Hi

I noticed B&Q have this insulation that comes in a roll and is effectively 2 sheets of tin-foil covered in plastic with a layer of bubble wrap between them. Claims to be as effective as 55mm of polystyrene.

I was going to ask if anyone has used it - but just bought some and have wrapped my enamelled steel Brupaks boiler in it. I saw on this forum that the enamelled steel makes the boiler shed heat and reduces it's effectiveness as a mash tun. There is more than enough to insulate my fermentation barrel too.

Anyway - anybody used it or have a better suggestion? I shall see if it works myself this weekend.

Babble babble ramble-on.

Pete

I just noticed a very similar post not that long ago - so nobody feel the need to reply if they don't wish to.

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Post by Andy » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:31 pm

Wierd, I was in B&Q last night and saw this stuff.

Thought that it might make good boiler insulation too - £5 for a 5 metre roll.
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Post by oxford brewer » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:42 pm

Let me know how it goes with the insulation around the boiler Pete as i am picking my brupaks boiler up in the morning and that will be worth buying if it works ok! :D

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:58 pm

I'm considering this for my mash tun if it gets much colder. So far it's been ok without insulation but I suspect as it gets colder I may start to see the mash temperature suffer.

/Phil.

Pete

Post by Pete » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:41 pm

I am doing an overnight mash for a test.

Also, it makes my boiler shiny.

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Incidentally, I bought it at the Oxford B&Q so I guess we would be buying it at the same place Oxford Brewer.

Bigster

Post by Bigster » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:34 am

Did you glue it on (what did you use) or is it ready sticky? :)

Pete

Post by Pete » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:08 pm

Good old gaffa tape, but you could simply use straps (come to think of it, I have some suitable ones somewhere I could have used).

My results are a bit inconclusive, but using double thickness on the sides, triple on the top...

1. I am using lots of water for my high grain recipe, 20ish litres. It was 67degC when I turned the boiler off and 2 hours later there was no noticeable drop. So OK for mashing although would it be as good with less liquid? 12 hours from the beginning it was at 50degC.

2. It seemed to get to temperature quicker (say a third quicker), but I have not accurately measured it so take that info with a pinch of salt.

3. The outside still feels warm (not like a hot water tank which are often so insulated there is no heat) so it clearly lets heat through and is not as good as 50mm of polystyrene.

4. When the boiler is on it still feels the urge to turn the element on every 5 minutes to keep the temperature correct - I assume this means there is enough drop in temperature that the thermostat (or whatever) turns on the boiler.


My conclusion is - it is worthwhile because it is:
1. cheap as chips.
2. easy to apply to the boiler in a way that can be left on when not in use.
3. bound to work a bit (in fact probably good enough that the boiler can be turned off duriong mashing, which was my objective).
4. good looking.

However, if you can think of a better alternative, go for it.

Incidentally my mash worked lovely.

Pete

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Post by guildofevil » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:36 pm

Anyone know what this stuff is actually called? I want the shiny thing, but don't know what to ask for.

I know I have seen it around somewhere, but I can't, for the life of me, remember where.

Pete

Post by Pete » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:59 pm

Sorry - I chucked away the wrapper.

Can't you ask for shiny bubble wrap type stuff? You'll sound like an expert in insulation, I am sure!

I found it in the middle and at the back along with the other roof insulation materials.

Pete

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Post by Kev. » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:16 am

Think it's a bit like breather foil....http://shurl.org/vFkwb I used to rent some lockup space from a joiner and he used tons of the stuff. I blagged some from him as I thought it might prove usefull. Never got round to using it though! :?

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Post by Andy » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:35 am

It was in the plumbing "bits" aisle at my local B&Q
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Post by guildofevil » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:40 am

I found it on line, listed as Foil Bubble. Who would have guessed?

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