Shiny boiler tap fitting

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Shiny boiler tap fitting

Post by crow_flies » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:18 pm

Guys,

was talking to my brother-in-law new years eve, he is going to fit the tap to my 100l shiny boiler for me. I've a question from him though.....

I purchased the tap from grap@hop, but it doesnt come with washers or backnut. I bought a nut and washer from a tank fitting. He is worried it might give problems because of the curvature and the washer might resist bending.

Can I ask those that have fitted this tap / boiler combo how / what they used please?

/CF
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Western Brewer

Post by Western Brewer » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:05 pm

I bought a boiler tap from H&G and it came with a backnut and washer. I would give them a call as it sounds like you have a duff 'un.

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Post by crow_flies » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:08 pm

I've just dropped patsy a note to ask her if i should have got one - thanks.....

/CF
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Orfy

Post by Orfy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:14 pm

A couple of large silicone o'rings should do the job.

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Post by Andy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:21 pm

Are you two guys talking about the same type of tap ?

I got the impression that Orfy is on about a metal tap and WB a plastic one ?

Or have I got the wrong end of the stick again :lol:
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Post by crow_flies » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:56 pm

This one....

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/CF
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Post by crow_flies » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:59 pm

I'm pretty sure Vossy has fitted one - he bought the 50 or 75l version of the same tank and it was him that advised me re getting this tap. I just want to establish how it ws actually fastened

/CF
Drinking:Bottled Hobgoblin clone
Drinking:Bottled Black sheep clone
Drinking:Casked Amarillo ale
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Orfy

Post by Orfy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:10 pm

If it were me.

I'd find a friendly pipe fitter who likes beer.
Drill an hole, get hold of a SS 1/2 coupler or nipple and see how many home brews he wants for 5 minutes work. If the worst comes to the worst how many £££s can he charge for 5 minutes?

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Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:01 pm

Hi CF,

The tap you've photo'd is the one I've got fitted to all my vessels.

If it's from the hop and grape, has John supplied the large o-ring with the tap...he forgot on 2 of the 3 taps that I bought :wink:

If he hasn't give him a call and he'll post some to you :wink:

I drilled a 20mm hole through the stockpot at the lowest point where I could still comfortably manipulate the nut on the rear.

When drilling your hole use the nut as the guide.

I used a standard 3/4" brass flange nut (I think thats what there called) to secure the tap to the boiler from the inside.

The tip of the tap nossel is removeable and you can screw a 3/8th JG fitting straight into the tap :wink:

I like the taps Orfy's showed also but getting a weldless jobby in the UK will stand you at least £19 if your lucky...I bought all 3 of mine for that price 8)

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Post by crow_flies » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:29 pm

Thanks Vossy I was sure you'd know the answer. I didnt get anything other than the tap - I'll drop him a line.

I did buy a brass flange nut from a tank fitting, it was the washer to use that was my concern.....

/CF
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Drinking:Bottled Black sheep clone
Drinking:Casked Amarillo ale
In the FV: nought

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:44 pm

When you fit the flange nut, it wont matter how much you tighten it you'll still be able to turn the tap. Don't worry about this :wink:

I actually use the tap in the horizontal position most of the time but for getting the runnings or pulling the wort through my chiller I turn the tap so its vertical

They've never leaked on me 8)

1/2" tubing, when warmed in a cup of hot water, will go straight over the taps outlet. I use a jubilee clip to secure the hose.

I tried using the JG fitting for the tap, but it restricted the flow too much.

I even drilled the interior of the fitting to increase its bore, but it still reduced the flow rate too much :cry:

In the end I used a small 2" piece of braided tubing, attached at one end to the tap and the other end to a small 2"piece of 15mm copper tube.

The copper tube can be used 'quick fit' with any 15mm quick fit plumbing connectors.

It's not ideal or pretty but it's cheaper than the alternative stainless jobbies.

I'll find a pic :wink:

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Post by Western Brewer » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:34 pm

Andy wrote:
I got the impression that Orfy is on about a metal tap and WB a plastic one ?
Yep I was on about a placcy tap. Didn't know crow was on about a metal tap.

Orfy

Post by Orfy » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:15 pm

I'm thinking a 100L shiny boiler will be metal not plastic so I presume it'll be gas fire. Not suitable for a plastic tap.

Here's my take on a no weld tap.

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Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:03 am

Hi Orfy,

I've wanted to fit a tap like that above since inception, but one thing stopped me, can you help?

I assume that's just a long 3/4" (nipple?) going into the rear of the tap, or some sort of threaded bar (I have seen them in B+Q)

How will a compression 3/4" fitting attach to the back with an olive (to hold the manifold)?

Is the nipple tapered inside to accomodate the olive?

I didn't think they were and couldn't get my head round it :?

Orfy

Post by Orfy » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:13 am

I have it in my hand as we speak. :lol:

Yep, tapered for an olive so a compression nut and olive can be used to attach a 15mm pick up tube on the inside and a 1/2" female ball valve on the outside. I then use a 15mm elbow (compression) to my aerating outlet.

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