H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
Hi there i have orderd one of these 10 gallon buckets from Hop & Grape web site and im putting the 2 kettle elements in it and tap,it`s going to be used 4 my first all grain brew Yahooooo
Q1--how they perform under the 90 min boil
Q2--was the plastic good enough and does it keep the shape,no warping,another word`s is it safe to use it as a homemade boiler,as they state that its not recomended to use as a homemade boiler
cheers lads
Q1--how they perform under the 90 min boil
Q2--was the plastic good enough and does it keep the shape,no warping,another word`s is it safe to use it as a homemade boiler,as they state that its not recomended to use as a homemade boiler
cheers lads
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Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I believe the material in the bucket has recently changed so that they're now no longer suitable as a boiler.
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Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
hi all done now just for the test ill be heating 4 gallons water see if it up for the task fingers cross`t,,,,
Also at the bottom of the bucket (outside,underneath of the bucket) there is a grade number which i think is the thickness of plastic the bucket is made of,,mine says
"EC-60000" ,,,,,,Could you buy any chance see what grade number your bucket has,,See if it`s the same cheers
The bucket grade number:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 2563261138
Elements:drilled with 38mm hole cutter: trying to find a bit of 15mm copper to make a hop strainer.
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 2116127442
The power cover:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 0697691730
Tap
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 5094916850
Also at the bottom of the bucket (outside,underneath of the bucket) there is a grade number which i think is the thickness of plastic the bucket is made of,,mine says
"EC-60000" ,,,,,,Could you buy any chance see what grade number your bucket has,,See if it`s the same cheers
The bucket grade number:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 2563261138
Elements:drilled with 38mm hole cutter: trying to find a bit of 15mm copper to make a hop strainer.
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 2116127442
The power cover:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 0697691730
Tap
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jonny10ba ... 5094916850
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I have one of the 'proper' boiler buckets from hop & grape and underneath mine too says EC-60000 but badger is quite correct, hop & grape are only using the 'proper' buckets for their own ready assembled boilers and are not selling them unaltered unless things have changed since I called them a couple of weeks back.
I don't know if the EC-60000 has anything to do with the ability of the bucket to be used as a boiler. I measured mine and it is 3mm thick if that helps
I don't know if the EC-60000 has anything to do with the ability of the bucket to be used as a boiler. I measured mine and it is 3mm thick if that helps
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
cheers for the reply
i have found out more about these buckets,and my bucket is also 3mm thick hmmmm,there is a site stamped on the bottom of the bucket were they get them from
http://www.hk-plastics.nl/GB/ec_premium.php
if you look and find EC-60000 its there biggest (6o litres,10 GALLON) bucket they do so they must be the same,so H&G`s quote is miss leading:::--Please note; we do not consider these suitable for converting in to boilers.
i have found out more about these buckets,and my bucket is also 3mm thick hmmmm,there is a site stamped on the bottom of the bucket were they get them from
http://www.hk-plastics.nl/GB/ec_premium.php
if you look and find EC-60000 its there biggest (6o litres,10 GALLON) bucket they do so they must be the same,so H&G`s quote is miss leading:::--Please note; we do not consider these suitable for converting in to boilers.
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
Polypropylene has a melting point of ~160°C (320°F) This is what the buckets r made of 

Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I have just bought one of these EC-60000 buckets too. If I measure the thickness of the bucket around the lip at the top of the rim, it is just over 3mm thick. However, I measured the thickness of the 38mm plastic disc I cut for fitting an element and this is only 2.30mm wall thickness.
I have no other buckets to compare against, and I don't know where the previous posters took thickness measurements.
I will persevere. Thankfully I will be doing the boiling in an open-doored garage, so I will make sure I take appropriate precautions should the bucket 'fail' during boiling.
If someone who has the H&G supplied boiler is prepared to take an element out and confirm the wall thickness, this would be much appreciated.
I have no other buckets to compare against, and I don't know where the previous posters took thickness measurements.
I will persevere. Thankfully I will be doing the boiling in an open-doored garage, so I will make sure I take appropriate precautions should the bucket 'fail' during boiling.
If someone who has the H&G supplied boiler is prepared to take an element out and confirm the wall thickness, this would be much appreciated.
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I tried the other day with one of these. They DO NOT WORK!
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Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I have the H&G 10 gallon plastic boiler. I took the element out and measured the wall thickness with a micrometer; 3mm exactly at the bottom where the element sits.
If enough people want these would it be worth contacting the manufacturer (HK Plastics?) and asking for a minimum order quantity and price? Just a thought.
If enough people want these would it be worth contacting the manufacturer (HK Plastics?) and asking for a minimum order quantity and price? Just a thought.
If I had all the money I'd spent on brewing... I'd spend it on brewing!
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
my 3mm measurement was also taken with a micrometer from the hole I drilled for the element.
If these new buckets don't work as boilers then they must be really w@nk as there's a chap on here who made a boiler from a youngs FV and it stood up to a full boil...
If these new buckets don't work as boilers then they must be really w@nk as there's a chap on here who made a boiler from a youngs FV and it stood up to a full boil...
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
Tried mine out for the first time yesterday - made using one of the H & G fermenters and two tesco value kettle elements. Worked fine. It was a ten gallon boil, no leaks and the walls held up well.
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
Hey adeybambam, did you happened to measure the wall thickness of you bucket by any chance?adeybambam wrote:Tried mine out for the first time yesterday - made using one of the H & G fermenters and two tesco value kettle elements. Worked fine. It was a ten gallon boil, no leaks and the walls held up well.
If you are able to, let us know - that would be great.
Cheers
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
I seem to recall that when I drilled the whole for the element I took a rough measurement and it was about 3mm - although it was a rough measurement so it is feasible it could have been a bit less. Don't get me wrong; when I did the test boil the walls certainly became more flexible but I had no fears that they would fail or anything like that. I wouldn't fancy moving the boiler around with 10 gallons of boiling water in, but that is the same no matter what boiler you are using.
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
jimw86 wrote:I tried the other day with one of these. They DO NOT WORK!
YES THEY DO WORK;;;;;;iv done 5 brews and its mint
Re: H&G 10 gallon bucket for boiler
Dont worry about it,if it 2mm or more thick then it will be fine