New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by Fil » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:44 pm

grab a copy of the chris white yeast book, not only is it very informative and an easy read for the layman it also contains all the info you need to put together a tabletop yeast lab on a budget using a pressure cooker as an autoclave is just one of the budget saving examples..
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
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Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by darthballs » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Just read through this whole thread and many congratulations on (at least partly) achieving your dream.

I suspect many of us imagine doing something similar but it takes quite a lot of guts to actually do it for real. Respect and good luck.

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by Cazamodo » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:04 pm

dloper wrote:I have thought about liquid yeast but decided against for several reasons. I wouldn't want to spend a fortune on fresh yeast for each brew, and I don't have lab equipment to check yeast count, infection or mutations if I chose to harvest. With Notty ale yeast, I get consistent results, provided I store opened yeast carefully. The manufacturers recommend using within 3 days of opening but I've had good results up to 10 days afterwards. I did try repitching a couple of times but the character of the beer was definitely changed - not necessarily in a bad way, but nevertheless, not the same. Basically, dried yeast is consistent, easy to store, quick to use and costs around £7 per 200 litre brew. Liquid yeast may be something I'll visit again in the future, but at present I'll have to stick with dried.
This is the exact explanation I tell people when they ask why I use dried yeast here too.
I have had success in re-pitching, without too much change in profile of the beer, but try to avoid it as I'm never confident that I can harvest and re-pitch to my probably over the top cleanliness standard.

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by simon12 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:16 pm

Just took over a 200L brewery so this is extra useful to me now thanks for all the info. How much do you pay for your yeast the guy I took over the brewery uses S04 £45.83 and US05 £51.63 for 38x11.5g from Charles Faram do you know of anywhere cheaper?

Aaron

Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by Aaron » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:21 pm

Charles faram sell boxes of US05 do they? I may have to indulge.

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by chris2012 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:35 pm

Where do you get your malts out of interest, if you don't mind me asking.


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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by dloper » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:20 am

Currently buying malt from Brewers Select at around £14.40 per 25 kg although a pallet load costs £75 for delivery to N.E. Scotland. 500g of Notty Ale yeast is around £36 which I use for 5 x 200l brews.

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by chris2012 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:12 pm

Cheers guys, I'll check both of those out!

£14 is awesome :)

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by simon12 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:08 am

On my only commercial order I paid £14.70+VAT from charles farm for 25Kg crisp ale malt so have just emailed brewers select for a full price list.

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by chris2012 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:11 pm

I just spoke to brewers select, they've helpfully told me how to work out the shipping costs (I guess it might be different depending on where you live though)

Shipping cost:
£12.75 up to 25kg
then above that: 32p / kg

Or:

£34 / pallet - up to 40x bags 25kg

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Re: New 'Commercial' 200l brewery

Post by chris2012 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:29 pm

dloper - I'm just wondering what kind of false bottom you use in your vessels, i'm thinking a domed bottom with a hosebarb, might not give enough flow?

I was wondering if you use something like:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Custom-F ... 18069.html

Which covers an outlet valve?

cheers

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