How do you measure your boiler volume

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How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by lord groan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:42 pm

I can work out volumes fine, thats not the question, I have a Parry tea urn, its label states 27l, but the "max" marker embossed on the side is about 8cm below the rim, the dimensions are 32cm deep by 40cm diameter. So
40cm/2=20 =the radius.
Area of base is therefore pi x r2= 3.142 * 400= 1256.64cm2
This means for every cm deep I have 1.256litres, so my 27l boiler actually holds 40.2litres. Parry obviously take the safe useable volume as the figure, rather than the actual tub capacity. I reckon 40l should be fine to use as a boiler but that raised my real question which is
many of you good people use a buffalo 40l or Apollo 40l boiler. Is that the actual capacity or the safe usable capacity?

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by AnthonyUK » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:49 pm

The Buffalo 40l is actually 50l but the usable limit is where the handles screw on which could leak if not sealed.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Linus » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:18 pm

According to the software on the BIABrewer site a 40 litre buffalo its 8.7mm(0.87cm) is 1 litre.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Cazamodo » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:09 pm

I have a sight glass now.

I used to use a stick.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by TC2642 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:12 pm

by sight, I know roughly where I want the final volume to be in the boiler and aim for that.
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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Fil » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:40 am

SS Ruler dipstick. in my 98l ss stock pot 1 cm is just about 2L

and for liquor into the tun i am gonna use scales to weigh the volume,
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by hebbstar » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:28 pm

I use a copper dipstick with marks on it for a 70 litre pot.

3 cm = 5 litre.

Makes the maths interesting when stressed !

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Jim » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:54 pm

Tape rule as a dipstip. My boiler is cylindrical, just over 33cm tall and full capacity is 33l, so volume of liquid in litres is (near as makes no odds)

33 - measurement.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Frothy » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:01 pm

Of course when the liquid is boiling it will take up a larger volume than when it's cold.
I made the mistake and calibrated my sight glass with cold water - there is quite a big difference!

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Fil » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:07 pm

mass adjusted to consider gravity ie if 1040 1.04kg per litre.. should be a good indicator (i hope:) )
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Post by Cazamodo » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:17 pm

I've always took a reading at boiling and multiplied by .96. I have no idea if thats correct haha.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Fil » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:00 pm

Cazamodo wrote:I've always took a reading at boiling and multiplied by .96. I have no idea if thats correct haha.

me neither, tho im currently running under the assumption mass is temperature independent??
based on nothing other than recall of a long ago lesson at school.
tho the temperature may effect the measuring device.. So my intention is to sit upon an insulation sheet.. and monitor the ambient temp under the scales when testing the set up.
im still collecting the bits atm.

The mass of the tun contents may change however as the grist absorbs the liquid as some gasses in the air may also get involved.. making cus-cus on the scales would puzzle me as mixing 100g of pasta with 160g of boiling water resulted in a mass greater than 260g???
this was explained to me in the pub.. so b*llsh*t warning, that the air is also filling some of the volume of the expanded pasta when hydrating??? tho it could also be error creeping into the electronic scales as the heat from the water takes effect on the electronics???
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by mooj » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:49 pm

I measure the head space and subtract from the full volume. I have a 70L bergland pot and 1" is near enough 4L.
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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by Maltmaniac » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:23 pm

Beer engine from Mr Wheelers site has a very nice vessel gauging app on it which I find accurate using a ruler/tape measure. Usually my measurements for mash and sparge volumes are spot on when using it. It's simple and friendly to use, check it out.

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Re: How do you measure your boiler volume

Post by phil.dadd » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:24 pm

I calibrated my pot by reading the depth of 20kg of water from 7° to 95°. I determined a depth per litre at various temperatures to use. The difference wasn't as much as I thought tbh - the depth was 21.5cm at 7° and only 22cm at 95... About 2.5% difference then... I didn't account for steam extraction as I raised the temperature, but I kept the lid on to keep that to a minimum, and not much steam was produced to be honest as it didn't boil...

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