Shiny new shiny preciousssss

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JamesF
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Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:40 pm

Three large boxes arrived today whilst I was sneaking a quick half hour working on the brew shed during my lunchbreak. My wife didn't even bat an eyelid which was unexpected, but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

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They're rather minimally packaged, so I'm not entirely surprised some people have them arrive with dings in or worse.

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I'm pleased to report however that despite the strapping having pulled through the cardboard boxes slightly at the edges, all three pots appear to be in good condition, if a little dusty.

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They're now stashed away in the shed until I work out exactly how I want everything to hook together (and until the brew shed has progressed a bit).

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

Fastline
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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:45 pm

This is what i'm looking for

May i ask how much hassle it was to get them

And what sort of deal did they do you for all three

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:58 pm

No major hassle at all. I emailed them explaining what I wanted, they gave me the prices and a link to a page that allowed me to pay and they arrived within a week. Prices were the same as I think I've seen posted elsewhere here in the last few days, but as far as I can tell I got two standard pots and a thermopot for what I'd have paid for a standard pot and a thermopot from a UK vendor and I'm happy with that.

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:09 am

What sizes did you go for and how are you planning to set them up

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:43 am

I've gone for 100 litre pots for the HLT and boiler and an 80 litre thermopot for the mash tun. It is a bit on the large side, but generally I'll expect to do ten gallon brews with the occasional larger one. I sometimes struggled with my old five gallon boiler and mash tun when there was a fairly large grain bill so this should make life easier. And it's not like I don't have the space.

I've easily got two metres headroom in my brew shed, so I'm probably going to go for a three tier system rather than pumped, with all the vessels having bottom drains, grain filter in the mash tun and hop filter in the boiler. Somewhere I want to fit in either a counterflow chiller or flat plate heat exchanger, but I need to give that a bit more thought. I might eventually go down the HERMS route, but initially I think I'm going to have everything manual and just get some brewing done.

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:41 am

What are you going to use to supply the heat, gas or electric

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:42 am

Have you got an email address of the supplier for the pots or is it all done through ebay

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:51 am

Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:51 pm

Thanks for your help James enquiry sent

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fil » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:53 pm

fwiw using thru the side holes in 98l pots and a SS 90 degree F/F elbow fitting positioned a mm or so above the pot bottoms i get minimal deadspace in my 98l pots.. for a hop filter the garth style mesh envelope is proven and popular and easy to fit simply substituting a F/M (street)elbow.
ive been using a hop spider but have a garth filter ready if i change my mind..

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wot deadspace..

with a botom drain your looking at raising the drain point 2-3mm off the base minimum, and forgetting the base curve thats potentially 4-6l below the drain point, stick a base hovering elbow on the back side of a side hole and a simple tip forward at the end of the drain when its as light as it can be it will simply drain the last runnings easily in no time.

You could look at countersinking the drain port? use a metal jig tho iirc someone who used a wood one discovered the thin SS a lot stronger than his jig ;) i think i read somewhere of someone dropping a bowling ball into a pot hopeing to dish the base out a bit ??

the hop spider is working ok for me but if i opt for kettle hops again i will just re-plumb the pot seal nipple onto this

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ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:24 pm

Now you mention the fact, it does occur to me that when emptying the boiler into a lower vessel there's something of a syphon effect meaning that the pot can drain to a lower level than the hole it's being drained through. May not always help with cleaning and suchlike though, I guess.

I quite like that the hops settling on the filter act as a pretty good filter themselves. My current hop filter has pretty large holes in (3mm to 4mm I'd guess), but the boiled wort runs quite clear after the first pint or so despite all the gunk that could theoretically get through the holes. Personally I'd prefer not to tip the boiler and disturb them for that reason.

Anyhow, plenty of time to think about it yet :)

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:21 pm

Maybe I’m impatient but no reply from the catering portal, it was only sent to them yesterday though

Should I have sent it in German or can they deal with English enquires ok

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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:28 pm

They're fine with English. It did take a day or so for them to reply to me though.

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

Fastline
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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by Fastline » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:41 pm

Actually just sent reply so seems good so far

JamesF
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Re: Shiny new shiny preciousssss

Post by JamesF » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:43 pm

Excellent :)

James
Fermenting: Nothing!
Conditioning: London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Beaverdale Chardonnay
Maturing: Brewalong Wee Bee, Arkell's Kingsdown, Beaverdale Sauvignon Blanc, Beaverdale Gewurztraminer, Beaverdale Shiraz (5G)
Drinking: Marston's Pedigree, Elderflower Champagne, OSH, London Pride, Arkell's Kingsdown, Seymour's Hobgoblin, Jim's ESB, Fuller's ESB, Arkell's 3B, Beaverdale Shiraz, Beaverdale Merlot
Planned: SMaSH brews with a range of hops, some variety of stout
Pints brewed in 2016: 323
Pints brewed in 2015: 619

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