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Post by 46philh » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:28 am

Has anyone managed to find the stainless steel parts for attaching an extractor hose to a boiler lid ?

I wonder if Mr Lard might be able to come up with some genius idea and fabricate parts for the home brew market.

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Post by orlando » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:37 am

46philh wrote:Has anyone managed to find the stainless steel parts for attaching an extractor hose to a boiler lid ?

I wonder if Mr Lard might be able to come up with some genius idea and fabricate parts for the home brew market.
Most peoples response to this problem has been cheap cooker hood ducting, or indeed a cooker hood by itself ducted to the outside
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Post by 46philh » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:22 pm

From what I have read cooker hoods are a bit hit and miss but happy to be corrected.

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Post by orlando » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:17 pm

46philh wrote:From what I have read cooker hoods are a bit hit and miss but happy to be corrected.
I think that's fair, because a really hard boil produces a lot of condensation and they are really designed for domestic use. In order for mine to cope I remove the carbon filters which allows the hood to capture the vast majority before the motor, running at full tilt, expels it to the outside. What you have to be careful of is condensate dripping back into the boiler, particularly from the motor housing. I deal with this by having an old ice cream container wedged underneath it. I got a brand new/ex display one off Ebay for £80 and it copes well enough even in a low ceilinged cellar.
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Post by IPA » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:56 pm

46philh wrote:Has anyone managed to find the stainless steel parts for attaching an extractor hose to a boiler lid ?

I wonder if Mr Lard might be able to come up with some genius idea and fabricate parts for the home brew market.
Do you mean something like this?
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Post by 46philh » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:54 pm

Yes something like that, can you send us one IPA .lol

Barnsley brewer did something years ago with what looked like a stainless steel dish on top of his lid.

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Post by Fil » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:11 pm

i sue a simple fan sat behind the kettle blowing the vapour out the open doorway ;)

however soldering on a SS Triclamp ferule onto a SS pot lid is do-able ;)

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although i only fitted a 2" ferrule they go upto 6"+ the trick is to not apply any torch heat to the tnin lid skin only to the thicker denser ferule flange, and it takes an age to heat it up, but once hot it transfers enough heat to the lid to solder neatly..

you may need to repasify the SS that came into contact with flux and heat afterwards too.
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Post by 46philh » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:35 pm

I have a spare bathroom extractor fan and wondered about something like this ?

Ideally want a system where the lid stays on and vented out
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Post by Dads_Ale » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:12 pm

This is my current set up:

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The lid fitting is only galvanised but seems to be holding up well.

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Post by 46philh » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:26 pm

That's just what I am after but no chance of getting the lid cut etc.

Looking at it it looks like you have bolted that on, good idea !

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Post by Dads_Ale » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:14 pm

46philh wrote:That's just what I am after but no chance of getting the lid cut etc.

Looking at it it looks like you have bolted that on, good idea !
yes it is bolted on with a hole cut in the lid. There is also a joiner that slots in the main fitting to make connecting the hose easier. I originally drilled a series of small holes in the lid but found these got blocked by the condensation and had to open up the hole full size.

If you didn't want to cut a hole in your lid you could get a sheet on aluminium and cut a hole in that. May not look as pretty but would work

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Post by 46philh » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:29 pm

Should be able to use the q Max cutter to cut a series of holes in the lid. Just need to try and find a 316 "thingy*

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Post by 46philh » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:41 pm

Looked around and cannot find one with a flange to be able to drill and bolt to a lid. Might ask these people for a price to make one.
Wondering if a 90 bend would be better.

http://www.adamssheetmetal.co.uk/webpag ... Bends.html

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Post by Dads_Ale » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:43 pm

46philh wrote:Looked around and cannot find one with a flange to be able to drill and bolt to a lid. Might ask these people for a price to make one.
Wondering if a 90 bend would be better.

http://www.adamssheetmetal.co.uk/webpag ... Bends.html
I couldn't find any S/S ones either. Let us know how if you find some..

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Post by Kev888 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:18 pm

There are types of stainless inlets/outlets specifically made for ducting, that are designed to fix to ceilings and walls via some sort of flange. They could perhaps be worth investigating.

I had an adjustable one like this in my bathroom (the adjustable/middle part was removable), I think I've seen something similar in Toostation for about £12:
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Its not 100% perfect because the flange is bevelled, but maybe a step towards being useful.

There are other types too, e.g.
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So a bit of surfing may find something better. Though beware, some are just chromed steel or even silver-coloured plastic.

EDIT: a quick google image search threw up various designs for inspiration, though don't assume everything it finds are in fact stainless etc.

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