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Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:29 am

Anyone used the cheap chinese elements from ebay like this
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-220V-1-5KW- ... Sw6~VZ3NhN

Im thinking of putting one in a hlt for about 20-30 litres of water to take from 52c to 75 c. Once i have that do i just need a hole and a hot condition lead ? Is there a way around hot condition leads as i here the pins are unreliable

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by Jocky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:57 am

A proper hot condition lead will have a notch in the connector. Like this one: https://www.lindy.co.uk/cables-adapters ... lack-p9230

Most of thlse supplied with 2.4kw elements haven't been like that and I've melted a few.

After the last one I got one of the proper C15 hot rated cables from Lindy as linked to above, and have not had issues in 10 brews since.
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Re: Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:08 am

I notice the brewbuilder and angel both sell hot condition plugs. These must as good as the lindy ones suppose it depends on p n p after that point

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by simon12 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:46 am

I used exactly 1 of those years ago, I can't remember but I don't think it comes with a seal you can use the seal from a £5 kettle but then you mat as well use the element from it as well.

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:00 pm

What size hole is it and what sort of seal does it need

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by vacant » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:35 pm

sbond10 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:29 am
Is there a way around hot condition leads as i here the pins are unreliable
I use a couple or rewireable sockets on my plastic boiler. As they unscrew you can get access to tighten the contacts. Search for "C15 rewireable".
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Re: Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:21 pm

Ive seen the rewireable c15 ones. Just wondering if you could use commando sockets

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by Jocky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:11 pm

sbond10 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:08 am
I notice the brewbuilder and angel both sell hot condition plugs. These must as good as the lindy ones suppose it depends on p n p after that point
The ones that melted came from them, and didn't have the notch in them that a proper C15 hot rated connector will, although this was 18 months ago and they may have improved since then.
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Re: Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:57 pm

Thats very poor service and if i order one from them and it fails to come with a notch then ill ask for a refund as it clearly wont be fit for purpose. Just thinking if im ordering parts from one place i may as well save postage cost

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by oz11 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:22 pm

Jocky wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:11 pm
sbond10 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:08 am
I notice the brewbuilder and angel both sell hot condition plugs. These must as good as the lindy ones suppose it depends on p n p after that point
The ones that melted came from them, and didn't have the notch in them that a proper C15 hot rated connector will, although this was 18 months ago and they may have improved since then.
Interesting, I had one from brewbuilder, with a notch though, but that too melted after a few brews, I though I was just unlucky.

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by Jocky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:52 pm

Hmm. Who knows then.

The Lindy ones have been good, and when I disconnect them they're never hot (unlike the old leads, which would get quite warm).
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Re: Kettle elements

Post by f00b4r » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:33 pm

The hot condition leads are not meant to be used with extensions, was it plugged straight into the wall Oz?

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by sbond10 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:28 pm

Newtohomebrew tom on youtube uses commando plugs and a direct wire to the element via a batbox just unsure how hes done that

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by oz11 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:33 pm

f00b4r wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:33 pm
The hot condition leads are not meant to be used with extensions, was it plugged straight into the wall Oz?
Indeed it was.

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Re: Kettle elements

Post by f00b4r » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:38 pm

oz11 wrote:
f00b4r wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:33 pm
The hot condition leads are not meant to be used with extensions, was it plugged straight into the wall Oz?
Indeed it was.
Probably cheap Chinese stuff with fake CE marks then. My leads don't even get warm.

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