Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

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Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by StrontiumDog » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:20 pm

Bear with as a bit of imagination is needed for this....

From left to right I have my HLT - MT - BK

I want to make a semi-double tier set up by moving the fridge on the far right to the middle and put the MT on it, and put the wooden bench that's currently in the middle on the right to hold my BK (I have a linear counterflow chiller that attaches to it).

Everyone got that? Good lol.

I'm wondering what I could use as heat protection on my wooden bench to protect it, the wall behind, and the MT to the left?

I currently have the BK and it's burner on the floor on a slab but it's bloody heavy to lift on to the bench to gravity feed the chiller and I don't want to use a pump for that because when the burner is on the floor and everything is set up it takes up so much space I'll eventually trip over it and trash the whole bloody thing!

Would three sheets of aluminium around the sides and one under the burner (or a slab of granite perhaps) be enough to protect everything?

I should probably take the flag down too as it's nylon and I'm sure it would melt and there's no way I could do it the dishonour.....

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by sbond10 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:19 pm

Just for info my fridge has a huge sticker on saying do not but hot items on me i imagine most fridges are the same.

Secondly i have that burner i use it on a old kitchien worktop off cut with a slab of old paving flag between the legs this work s and no heat is felt in the worktop.

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:59 am

Absolutely, hence putting the fridge in the middle for the MT and moving the wooden trolley right for the BK and burner to go on

I have a slab under it already but that still gets really hot underneath

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Post by sbond10 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:13 am

As said ive used a bog standard paving slab and not had any issues. Before that i used around 12 breeze blocks as a table placing some of um around side as a wind break.
When i was really ghetto brewing i used a old washing machine housing cut into stripes then revited together as a wind break

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by orlando » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:57 am

Go electric?
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Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:09 pm

Don't have the ability (skills) to convert and tbh I'm not sure my power supply could take it

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:16 pm

Hmmmm. I knew this would happen. Sooooo, if I got one of these;

https://www.brewbuilder.co.uk/3kw-lwd-elements.html

Would I need to do anything fancy to the electricity supply or would it run off a bog standard garage supply?

Also, how easy are they (I guess in general) to wire up?

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by orlando » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm

"please note.
Elements require wiring up by a competent person
32.5mm hole required for fitting
These elements protrude 350mm into the pot so only suitable for >50l sized pots"
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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:19 pm

Yeah, it's that sort of thing that I'm very not competent with. Could get expensive with elements/leads/electricians etc

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:53 pm

Or what about leaving the BK in place on the floor and heat profing the base of this? My biggest issue is lifting the kettle as it does my back in. Would this work?

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Post by StrontiumDog » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by MDE » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:34 pm

I used to have a gas fired kettle on a wooden stand. I just put some spare ceramic floor tiles under the burner and never had any problems in over a decade of use.

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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by Fil » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:36 pm

orlando wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm
"please note.
Elements require wiring up by a competent person
32.5mm hole required for fitting
These elements protrude 350mm into the pot so only suitable for >50l sized pots"
:?
Take your time and im sure your competent the skills required are to drill a 8-10mm hole in the pot as a pilot for the qmax punch (its the easiest way..) and the ability to tighten nuts and shrouds on threads.. and if you can wire a plug you can wire the element.

i have fitted 4x of these in my kit so if you get stuck pm me
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Re: Heat protection for a ghetto double tier set up

Post by Fil » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:39 pm

btw for a budget diy insulation have you considered making up a batch of waterglass (sodium silicate) which is a Hi temp resilient water based glue.

you can use perlite or vermiculite as a balast for mixing with your sodium silicate to mold your own firebricks any shape and size you require..

If happy with the slab base why not mix n mold an inch or so base for it ;)

to make sodium silicate boil sodium hydroxide solution with silica gel (cat litter or the contents of lil bead packs the cat litter is easier to get/use.. )

such firebicks and cement mixes are used for diy high temp forge applications, check out the utubes for such builds and the recipe/method to make sodium silicate ,, If making sodium silicate BE CAREFUL sodium hydroxide needs attentive handeling (eye protection etc...) and do it in a well vented place..
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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