Sanitising bottles in the dishwasher

[mysterio]

Has anyone heard of, or done this? I think I read about it in Palmer.

I think the heat from the drying cycle is supposed to be effective enough to sanitise.

I gave it a go last week anyway and the bottles are fine so far, keeping a close eye out for any sourness developing.

On a side note, Chris, your bottling widget worked a charm - no foaming whatsoever, the bottles were not chilled and the beer was quite highly carbonated.

[floydmeddler]

I've got mine in the oven as I type. 120c for an hour.

[floydmeddler]

What an expensive resource hungry way to sanitise bottles. Great for baking on any dirt which may have been missed during cleaning too. Decadent, inefficient and shamefully wasteful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ76l_au ... annel_page

You admit to having used this very method yourself!

Well done Chris... Priceless!

[mysterio]

Again, thanks for your feedback Chris. I imagine you'd get some water collecting in the bottles if you stacked them sideways, not a problem, I take it?

I have tried baking the bottles in the oven - I will never try this again. For some reason, some of the bottles took on a burnt rubber/plastic taint which I could taste in the final beer. Only explanation I can think of is like Chris suggested, baked on dirt. Yet the bottles were soaked in soda crystals. Baked on soda crystals maybe

[floydmeddler]

Of course, i've tried lots of methods and therefore can speak from experience. When I tried it though the world wasn't under as much pressure to reduce its energy usage as it is today.

Oh come on! Apologies for the public humiliation Chris and it isn’t something I normally do. However, your tone in the post above when you were perched proud and mighty on your high horse was actually quite insulting (and quite funny because you’ve used the oven method yourself) so... you kinda asked for it.

Jim’s welcome message on the home page states, you'll be made very welcome if you take the plunge and join. If I were new to the forum and had a member who composes on average 18 posts a day use the tone that you did, I wouldn’t stick around as I would think it was actually quite an uninviting place to be. I, like most members I’d confidently assume, log on to Jim’s for friendly chit chat, banter and more importantly supportive advice. I don’t need to hear pompous statements from supposedly fellow brewers like ‘decadent, inefficient and shamefully wasteful’ for deciding to share the fact that I sterilize my bottles in an oven. I actually chose the oven method because it was suggested by John Palmer http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter2-2-3.html who is probably a little more clued up on the subject than you.

Long winded response I know, but I really can’t stand pomposity and downright rudeness for the very simple fact that there is never any need for it.

[floydmeddler]

If you felt publicly humilliated then perhaps you need to remember that this is an anonymous forum where most of us have signed in under a pseudonym, for all intents purposes this isn't actually the real world and we can all walk away from it at anytime we choose. If it isn't something you normally do then fine, just say so.

I hope you feel better now you've got that of your chest.

It appears that you may have misinterpreted my message Chris. I certainly did not feel publically humiliated by you, I was simply apologising if this was something that I had subjected you to; you offended me on a public forum, not humiliated.

If you really do take on this pseudonym at 18 posts a day (the average member on Jim’s being 3-4 memberlist.php) then you must experience very little time as ‘yourself’.

I, like most members on the forum have a username, but I don’t invent a personality to go with it; that is just weird and I doubt that ‘most of us’ do this to be honest.

If this is really how you see it, then what you have blatantly stated here Chris is that it is OK to be downright rude to members on this forum just as long as you do it under a false name and if those members don’t like it, they can ‘walk away’; It is quite unsettling to think that you view the forum in this way to be honest.

Whether or not you spend your days behind a computer hiding behind a fantasy persona, the fact of the matter is other people who are behind their computers will respond to that persona accordingly which is what I have quite rightly done.

[floydmeddler]

That's it, delete your post.

[mysterio]

Alright chaps, looks like we got off on the wrong foot, lets have a homebrew and put it behind us

[floydmeddler]

Yes, fair enough, you're right... Cheers Chris (raising my glass). However, it's nice to be nice and believe it or not, there are more ways than your ways! Don't get me wrong, your ways are fantastic and undoubtedly work... but so do mine!

Cheers... and no hard feelings

And with that ladies and gentlemen, an emotional Floyd signs out and retreats to a dark room...

THE END

[Chris77]

Could you not use VWP Cleanser as it says you can use in a dishwasher to steralize, that way you have the heat and a steralizing solution.

[mysterio]

Only problem I see with that is that its possible some VWP will be sprayed inside and missed by the rinse, bottle necks aren't wide enough.

[fester1979]

getting 40 pint bottles in a dish washer this is home brew not the crystal maze !!
what went wrong with a couple of 6 gallon bins and the ever faithfull sterllizing tablets ?